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1 Clean WS6
10-28-2004, 06:51 PM
Hello all!



I can`t believe Pinnacle is ending production of the Paste Glaz wax. This has been my "goto" carnuba for light colors for some time...so I bought a few of the "buy one get one free" deals to stash away. I like the Signature Series a bunch...it has always been my "goto" carnuba on dark metallics but I have yet to use it on a light color...that was always a PG job for me. To those that have used both waxes on light color vehicles what are your opinions? Is the Signature Series a worthy replacement for PG? How do the looks differ on a light colored vehicle?



Thanks for your input!

Mike :cool:

DCT
10-28-2004, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by 1 Clean WS6

Hello all!



Is the Signature Series a worthy replacement for PG? How do the looks differ on a light colored vehicle?



Thanks for your input!

Mike :cool:



In a word............... YES! The Signature Series paste looks great on light colors! I can`t tell the difference on most light colors between PG and SS................ of course, my eyes are getting old! :D

mtodde
10-28-2004, 06:58 PM
Mike, I love Signature on my Solara. I never used PG so I can`t say that one is better than the other. SilverLexus has used both so hopefully he`ll chime in.



You can check out my pics of Signature topping AIO: http://photobucket.com/albums/v415/mtodde/Pinnacle%20Signature/



These are a few that Lee took: http://photobucket.com/albums/v415/mtodde/Silver%20Showdown/



The ones Lee took are at 2 different resolutions. I think it would look great on your car. Let me know if you want to try it sometime.

TW85 HHI
10-28-2004, 07:58 PM
I`ll let you know what I think of Signature tomorrow. As I write this, I am taking a break from applying AIO, SG, and then Signature.



Signature better impress me because I had a very hard time touching my car with AIO. I didn`t want to remove my last process of AIO-SG-Natty`s-#16, which looked superb.

SilverLexus
10-28-2004, 09:20 PM
Here`s my view. Paste Glaz imparts a slight yellow tint like #26 does...Signature has a nicer look that works well on light colors. It`s a little more expensive but works well.



I do still prefer P21S or S100 by a slight margin.

TW85 HHI
10-28-2004, 09:31 PM
Lee,



Have you tried #16 or Natty`s on your car?

Scottwax
10-28-2004, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by TW85 HHI





Have you tried #16 or Natty`s on your car?



That was going to be my suggestion.

SilverLexus
10-29-2004, 10:30 AM
"Have you tried #16 or Natty`s on your car?"



I`m not a big fan of #16 since I used to use it on my prior ES with middling success (a beautiful Oyster Pearl gold/silver finish). I have not tried it on the new car, maybe I will since my technique has improved. I find #16 a bit difficult to apply compared to the new stuff.



To be honest, I`m a bit skeptical that it will be better than P21S which I have now (two jars!). I`ve tried everything and nothing seems to beat the P21S look on silver. I will keep an open mind though.



I`ve got some Natty`s on order for my car but I did not like on my wife`s Camry. How`s the durability?



Heck, I`m an Autopian: I will try anything once. :)

TW85 HHI
10-29-2004, 11:05 AM
#16 is a PITA to remove but the look on my Lunar Mist has been unlike anything I`ve tried before. Very crisp, clear, reflective, and shows off the metallic flake. Natty`s also looks nice but it has a wetter appearance and darkens the paint. Natty`s will not be as durable.



I`m still under the assumption that P21S is very similar to S100 which I have used on black. Haven`t used it on silver because I`ve read P21S and S100 are better for dark colors. Maybe I`ll try the S100 on my mom`s silver SUV...



I just finished putting Klasse AIO and SG on my car in prep for Pinnacle Signature. I`ll apply the Signature tomorrow after another wash. Hope I like it because like I said above, I had a hard time touching my car with the AIO to remove Natty`s and #16. This is the third carnauba I have put on my car in a month, LOL.

SilverLexus
10-29-2004, 12:54 PM
"Haven`t used it on silver because I`ve read P21S and S100 are better for dark colors."



Not true! if anything in my experience P21S/S100 is better on light colors. It works great on dark colors as well but gives blacks a more reflective look (which some prefer) than wet, glossy look ala Souveran (which some prefer).



Wherea Souveran is best on dark, P21S I have found to be very versatile on any color.



If Natty`s darkens the paint slightly then I am losing enthusiasm but will probably try it anyway being an OCD Autopian. :)



I have a small suggestion for the Solara process...Once you have AIO in place and surface prepped, try a section with P21S and a section with Signature. You may find the P21S or S100 is better. I find P21S to be a very clear wax whereas Signature has some slight or very slight darkening properties. Maybe you can try both on a lower section as a controlled test.



I think P21S is the same as S100 or so close there is no effective difference. I use P21S only because I got a deal on some kits from Top of the Line...

TW85 HHI
10-29-2004, 05:23 PM
I`ll do either the hood or trunk 50/50 with S100 and Signature. Wonder if a camera could pick up on the differences on the highest resolution?



Or maybe I`ll do 33/33/33 (#16/S100/Signature). :D

mtodde
10-29-2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by TW85 HHI

I`ll do either the hood or trunk 50/50 with S100 and Signature. Wonder if a camera could pick up on the differences on the highest resolution?



Or maybe I`ll do 33/33/33 (#16/S100/Signature). :D



Only an Autopian, LOL! I`d love to see pics! We really had a hard time telling on Lee`s Lexus...I thought the Pinnacle picked up the flake a bit more, but that may be my bias.

SilverLexus
10-29-2004, 05:49 PM
"Or maybe I`ll do 33/33/33 (#16/S100/Signature)."



:rofl Pure Autopian speak!

Scottwax
10-29-2004, 07:32 PM
TW85 HHI-#16 is a piece of cake to use if you apply it like S100, a panel at a time and remove. Thin layers and not letting it completely dry are the key.

TW85 HHI
10-29-2004, 08:37 PM
Well, I am officially sick. I divided my trunk lid into 1/4s and applied Natty`s, #16, Signature, and S100. I doubt appearance differences will be noticeable, but I am also going to test the durability over a 4 week period. I would go longer, but I think mtodde is coming to Hilton Head for Thanksgiving so I need the best product to be on my car by then. :D :LOLOL



Sorry about the poor lighting.



http://autopia.org/gallery/data/500/18119carnaubacomp.jpg



Scottwax,



You`re right. I just applied #16 to a 1/4 section of my trunk lid and it was a breeze to remove. The first time I used #16 I applied it too heavily. :)