View Full Version : Can #7 be topped with NXT? Any better topper?
Alfisti
10-27-2004, 09:34 AM
I`m in the process of finishing a very long, tedious paint restoration using my PC. Jag XK150 classic...dark blue, clear coat...such a complex body shape :scared More curves than Marylin Monroe!
Anyway, soon to be applying #7 to the finish and want to seal it with something. My choices available at present are:
NXT
Megs Cleaner Wax
Megs Gold Class
Mothers Natural Carnauba
Mothers Sealer and Glaze
S100
EO Wet
Megs Polymer Sealant
Autoglym Twins (SRP & EGP)
I know most of the above are OTC and most contain cleaners.
Soooooo...with what should I top the #7? Will NXT bond ok over the #7, or is there a better looking combo (that I currently own) on dark blue? #7, NXT, S100? :nixweiss
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
jfelbab
10-27-2004, 10:03 AM
What I`ve found regarding NXT and #7.
Using a polymer sealant over an oil based pure polish seems like a recipe for failure. In reality it works very well. There are enough cleaning agents in NXT to form a solid bond but not enough to remove all of the #7. The look is stunning. Longevity is running on six months for my 1991 MR2 which is garaged evenings and under covered parking during the day.
http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-10-23%2010.39.29%20-0700/Image-CC51C434251911D9.jpg
More images of my MR2 here. (http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/PhotoAlbum7.html)
I actually prefer using #81 as the polish under NXT on clear-coated paint and have done just that on my RX330 which was polished and waxed on 4/23/04 and still looks great and feels slick. This vehicle is garaged evenings and outdoors about 10 hours a day. This vehicle has had two applications of NXT booster spray one month apart during the last two months.
Here is the RX330.
http://homepage.mac.com/jfelbab/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-10-23%2009.53.19%20-0700/Image-5983508A251311D9.jpg
Scottwax
10-27-2004, 10:13 AM
NXT works great over #7, or any other final glaze I have use, like Vanilla Moose or PwC. Great over #80, which finishes down with an appearance very similar to #7 or #81.
BTW, you can always wait a day or two after using NXT and top it with S100 if you wish.
cheapshot
10-27-2004, 11:25 AM
I passed a detailing shop in the area to see if i could pick up on where i could find supplies. the guy was rambling on and on, about #7 and putting in between waxes. saying most people don`t no how to use it. Is this true? should #7 be applied between waxes? just curious, not saying i agree or anything.
by the way the MR2 look super wet and glossy.
jfelbab
10-27-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by cheapshot
I passed a detailing shop in the area to see if i could pick up on where i could find supplies. the guy was rambling on and on, about #7 and putting in between waxes. saying most people don`t no how to use it. Is this true? should #7 be applied between waxes? just curious, not saying i agree or anything.
by the way the MR2 look super wet and glossy.
Thank you. That`s what #7 does for you.
I`d bet not everyone knows how to use #7. Many here at Autopia do. There is a good write-up by Mike Philips around here somewhere. Do a search here or on the Meguiar`s forum for it. It is a good read.
#7 and #81 are high oil content pure polishes containing no abrasives. They leave the finish very wet looking. They disrupt the bonding of some polymer sealants like Zaino but don`t seem to give NXT any problems. They can be used after waxing but the best results are achieved by applying the polish and sealing the resulting look under NXT or a carnauba wax. If you`re going to a show you can apply it over a wax for that very wet look but unless it is sealed in the look will fade in a few days.
flip2jetta
10-27-2004, 04:51 PM
I`m only responding because I`ve done exactly what you`re planning on dark blue. After polishing I finished with no.7 topped with NXT then S-100 shortly after. I was pretty happy with how it looked. As for durability, it`s been 3 months and water is still beading. I`m sure the S-100 is pretty much gone but the nxt is holding up, I`m about to redo it next month.
http://autopia.org/gallery/data/500/1773506.jpg
http://autopia.org/gallery/data/500/17735jetta18.jpg
http://autopia.org/gallery/data/500/17735jetta19.jpg
Rob Tomlin
10-27-2004, 05:48 PM
Interesting read on #7.
I`ve always been afraid to use it because of what it would do to my Zaino. May have to try it with NXT or a carnauba wax.
JayJayPG
10-27-2004, 11:27 PM
I love #7 + NXT. There is definately a learning curve with using #7 but the results are worth it. I find it is better to remove #7 with a soft terry cloth rather than a microfiber.
#7+NXT
http://autopia.org/gallery/data/500/3621rsx-s__2_.jpg
MattZ28
10-27-2004, 11:38 PM
Hmm...new combo for me to try. :)
Alfisti
10-28-2004, 07:32 AM
Thanks for all the feedback guys...#7, NXT, S100 it is!
Nice looking finish on all those cars too!
audio1der
10-28-2004, 07:54 AM
#7 is my favorite "toy" in my arsenal. I use it very infrequently, but when I know that car has to look extra-good, I `ll throw a layer of #7 under the final wax coat to get the wettest look possible.
It`s great stuff- I only hope #3 works as well with the PC.
(going to try that this coming season, as I finally have a PC)
#7=:bow :bounce :xyxthumbs
Alfisti
10-28-2004, 08:12 AM
I bought #3 with my #7, but have only tried #7 to date.
I followed Mike P`s method and found it very easy to use. No probs.
Have yet to use #3...anyone try it? Any experience? How does it compare to #7?