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yankees1
10-03-2004, 08:38 PM
Would this be a good investment for maintaining a black painted vehicle? There are a few light scratches that no one else can see but I know they are there and I want them gone!

ZaneO
10-03-2004, 08:52 PM
How about this one: http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44068



Same thing minus the storage case.

togwt
10-04-2004, 09:13 AM
~One mans opinion / observations~



If you really like the idea of a purpose made storage case try Detailer Dream (approx $US 30)



~Hope this helps~



Knowledge unshared is experience wasted

justadumbarchitect / so I question everything/ Jon

Jesstzn
10-04-2004, 09:31 AM
How about this one .. No case .. leass money and backing plate and counter weight included.



Coastal Tool (http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/port/pr7424.htm?L+coastest+nqny8547ff96a596+1096955775)

yankees1
10-04-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ZaneO

How about this one: http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44068



Same thing minus the storage case. Does this one feature the rubber backed plate with holes to let heat escape like the Griot?

ZaneO
10-04-2004, 06:34 PM
It doesn`t appear so, but the one from www.coastaltool.com does.

Eliot Ness
10-04-2004, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by yankees1

Does this one feature the rubber backed plate with holes to let heat escape like the Griot?

You pay a heavy premium for that backing plate by buying the PC from Griot`s, well you get a plastic case too ;)



I`d say 99% of the users here don`t have holes in their backing plate. Meguiar`s sells a PC and their backing plate doesn`t have holes either, but they give a lifetime warranty with their unit. None of the kits I`ve seen offered that include a backing plate and pads have holes in them.



I`d say you`re better off shopping around and getting a better price. If you buy the PC here on Autopia (http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/pc-7424.html) you`ll get the PC for $129 and a Sonus pad kit (with backing plate) for $60. That`s $189 total, $10 less that Griot`s, and you`ll have a set of pads. Or you can get the LC pad kit for $40 and order a couple more polish pads. Use the code Autopia for a 10% discount.

Jesstzn
10-04-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by ZaneO

It doesn`t appear so, but the one from www.coastaltool.com does.



Yes the one I bought from Coastal has a PC backing plate #18002 which has 6 holes.

svanderbilt
10-04-2004, 10:08 PM
Since when was heat a bad thing? One of the principle reasons why a rotary kicks so much *** is because it can generate enough heat to break down the product.



The Old Gray Whistle Test, could you provide me a link to said storage case?



Oh yeah, and Bowie really ripped it up on TOGWT!

togwt
10-06-2004, 11:30 AM
~One mans opinion / observations~



The Groit’s ‘heat’ thing is just marketing hype, you’re far better off using a lightweight / flexible backing plate anyway.



Detailer’s Paradise (great people to deal with)



http://www.detailersparadise.com/_System/_AdvancedStore/Category.asp?DeptID=681420031122411-122521261407



It’s rare that anyone in US recognizes the ‘70s show TOGWT (Trivia: John Lennon refused his fee for performing on the show, he asked for a choc bar instead) Best show on the telly at the time (real R&R not just pop)



~Hope this helps~



Knowledge unshared is experience wasted

justadumbarchitect / so I question everything/ Jon

Accumulator
10-06-2004, 11:50 AM
Yeah, don`t worry about the holes, heat, or any of the other stuff they use to market the machine. Griot`s, Meg`s, it`s all the same machine with a few little variations that don`t add up to much. And there are a *lot* of backing plates to choose from (I must have four or five around here somewhere).



Paying extra for the lifetime replacement is a personal decision. I`ve killed a PC, FWIW but the rebuild cost less than $100 (as I recall).



As to the "will it fix my black paint", it depends on the paint. Most of the time the PC will do what you want, but with some really hard paints you might be better off with a Cyclo, which I generally prefer anyhow. But a PC sure beats working by hand and is the cheapest machine worth considering.