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imported_DetailGirl
09-29-2004, 09:57 PM
What are you experiences and such?

Scottwax
09-29-2004, 10:42 PM
AIO + UPP. I`d say my experiences were excellent!



http://www.scottwax.com/images/shine/2002_Z8_hood.jpg



http://www.scottwax.com/images/shine/Klasse_UPP_vettefender.jpg



Any questions? ;) :p

stevet
09-30-2004, 09:42 AM
Scottwax,



I think you could use dog poop as a base and still make the car look good;) You are proof that it is 90% process and 10% product. You have posted hundreds of pictures and used probably hundreds of different combos and they all look great.



I have used AIO as a base for UPP on my silver car and really liked the results. Never tried UPC.

imported_DetailGirl
09-30-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Scottwax

AIO + UPP. I`d say my experiences were excellent!



http://www.scottwax.com/images/shine/2002_Z8_hood.jpg



http://www.scottwax.com/images/shine/Klasse_UPP_vettefender.jpg



Any questions? ;) :p My lord Scott. So, wow. Heh Im at a loss for words here.



I guess. Wow, I will post later, wow.

rmaurin
09-30-2004, 11:04 AM
Hi Scott,



The Corvette looks fantastic. Looks like AIO and UPP are a great combination.



I ordered UPP and should have it today. I am going to try the AIO and UPP combo on my read Saab Aero. I have Menzerna Glaze and FMJ on it right now. I do like the FMJ....but maybe the AIO and UPP will give the red paint more depth and wetness.



Rich

MattZ28
09-30-2004, 11:22 AM
AIO + UPP



http://www.detailcity.com/photopost/uploads/0/1.jpg



Wanna jump in? :p



You can see that my green paint has plenty of depth to it in that pic.

PakShak
09-30-2004, 11:40 AM
Aloha guys...



Stop it...your making me drool over my keyboard. :D



Yes, the AIO/UPP combo is another good alternative. Leaves the surface very slick but also produces a nice shine.



The pics looks awesome! Great job.





With Aloha,

Ranney :)

Ahnuld
09-30-2004, 11:47 AM
WOW!



Newbie, here. Bidness kept me too bizee. Bidness ben bary bary good to me. Time to get down to some serious but relaxing detailing on my hacienda carriages.



Will this make my wife`s new Silver G35 compare to your fotos using AIO and PUPP (aka UPP)?



Thanks in advance.

grt1today
09-30-2004, 01:11 PM
Yes, provided you do the proper prep steps also...

maecrispy
09-30-2004, 01:22 PM
Scott, Ranney, Matt, etc...



You guys have used VM/EX-P right? Can you compare that combo to AIO/UPP? Before winter sets in here in MI, I`d like to try a couple of different combinations and I plan to use my Silver TL as the tester.



By compare I mean slickness, longevity, appearance. The only area that EX-P seems to fail me is slickness but since it`s easily restored with S&W/QD, I have the feeling that it`s Ann Arbor water more than anything else.



In addition to AIO/UPP, I`ll be trying Zaino (2 layers only :shocked ) My buddy`s volunteered his so I figure why not. :D

hirosh
09-30-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by PakShak

Aloha guys...



Stop it...your making me drool over my keyboard. :D



The pics looks awesome! Great job.



With Aloha,

Ranney :)



i agree with Ranney. :)



hmmm, i just got paid......i just might have to give Ranney another call. :D

MattZ28
09-30-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by maecrispy

Scott, Ranney, Matt, etc...



You guys have used VM/EX-P right? Can you compare that combo to AIO/UPP? Before winter sets in here in MI, I`d like to try a couple of different combinations and I plan to use my Silver TL as the tester.



By compare I mean slickness, longevity, appearance. The only area that EX-P seems to fail me is slickness but since it`s easily restored with S&W/QD, I have the feeling that it`s Ann Arbor water more than anything else.



In addition to AIO/UPP, I`ll be trying Zaino (2 layers only :shocked ) My buddy`s volunteered his so I figure why not. :D



I think EX-P made the metallics stand out more and didn`t have as much depth to the paint. The biggest difference is how well EX-P sheets water and UPP beads like crazy.

truvette
09-30-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Scottwax

AIO + UPP. I`d say my experiences were excellent!



http://www.scottwax.com/images/shine/2002_Z8_hood.jpg



http://www.scottwax.com/images/shine/Klasse_UPP_vettefender.jpg



Any questions? ;) :p



Scott, what did you use on those Corvette tires?

Scottwax
09-30-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by stevet

Scottwax,



I think you could use dog poop as a base and still make the car look good;)



I wish. My hands would stink but I`d save a lot of money!




You are proof that it is 90% process and 10% product. You have posted hundreds of pictures and used probably hundreds of different combos and they all look great.



Absolutely! Over properly prepped paint, your final glaze and LSP will only affect the appearance compared to other products within about 10% one way or the other.



Megan-I think you will really like the combo. The main reasons I don`t use it more often is a lack of shade and the long drying time of the version of UPP I have. Oh yeah, and I am out of AIO. I need to order more. :p



maecrispy-with regards to appearance, UPP has a somewhat softer, richer look than EX-Ps real hard clear look. Both look wet and neither are as deep looking as a carnauba. On silver though, that really doesn`t seem to be as important as reflections and wetness. I normally don`t let products go until there is no more beading or slickness at all, so the best I can vouch for is around 3 months on both products.



JM19-Armor All applied with an Eagle One tire swipe.

truvette
09-30-2004, 10:09 PM
JM19-Armor All applied with an Eagle One tire swipe. [/B]



Wow, never expected that kind of look with Armor All. It almost appears non-greasy while still maintaining the shiny look. Do you usually do this on most detail jobs?