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MattZ28
06-27-2004, 12:51 PM
This is on the rear bumper of my friend`s 1997 Pontiac TransAm. It has a custom blue pearl paint job, and it also did it on his factory white paint job as well. He lives about a mile from railroad tracks, and he lives near the beach so it`s usually windy there. I have 1Z Paint Polish, do you guys think it will be harsh enough? He took these pics just after claying, and the clay didn`t remove them.

gbackus
06-27-2004, 12:53 PM
if you can get your hands on it, an abc type wash is perfect that kind of thing, especially if clay doesn`t get it out.

MattZ28
06-27-2004, 02:27 PM
He also tried S100 paint cleaner on it but that didn`t work. Here are some more pics.

imported_Macgirl
06-27-2004, 02:30 PM
Clay bar will get that rust off.

MattZ28
06-27-2004, 02:31 PM
Last one

MattZ28
06-27-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Macgirl

Clay bar will get that rust off.


Originally posted by MattZ28

He took these pics just after claying, and the clay didn`t remove them.

MattZ28
06-27-2004, 02:37 PM
On a side note, I convinced him to try S100 instead of using Zaino, and his car looks a lot better now ;)

imported_Macgirl
06-27-2004, 03:22 PM
Sorry, zoned out when I read your post, but I haven`t had any trouble removing rust specks with Clay Magic or the Autopia block. When he used the S100 cleanser did that remove the rust?

imported_NotSoRed
06-27-2004, 03:46 PM
what type of clay did he use? he can try a more aggresive clay to try to get those spots out

MattZ28
06-27-2004, 03:50 PM
Nope, S100 cleanser didn`t get them out. He`s using Zaino Z18 clay.

Bill D
06-27-2004, 03:55 PM
From what`ve been reading here about Valugard ABC wash and Finish Kare`s equivalent, I`ve become convinced that the only thing to truly remove and prevent rust spots from returning is to use these 3 step washes in conjunction with clay--usually I think during the second step wash.

TriPinTaZ
06-27-2004, 05:47 PM
and where would i find such a product?

Accumulator
06-27-2004, 06:09 PM
TriPinTaZ- The ABC stuff is available HERE (http://www.autoint.com/) . I`ve used it and it worked well for me. For the FinishKare, run a search on that name (with that spelling). There was a thread with a link to the right page on their site.



Yeah, you clay during the acidic step. But if the rust has become too established, it might not all come off/out. That`s why it`s such a good idea to use this stuff when the vehicle is new...

MattZ28
06-27-2004, 08:17 PM
Well, from what I read, it`s not safe to clay or use the 3-step wash that often, so what would help prevent the spots besides a car cover?



*EDIT* He said they started appearing about 2 months ago. He applied 3 layers of Zaino Z5 about 8 days after the car got re-painted. Neither of us have had luck with Zaino lasting longer than a month or two here in south Florida, so I`m thinking maybe the Zaino wore off, and that`s when they started appearing? He said it stopped beading around the same time the spots started appearing, so this would be my guess.



Before trying the 3 step wash, I`ll try my PC with some 1Z PP and see how it turns out. I`ll put on some EX-P and S100 too, and tell him to just apply S100 monthly.



I`ll keep you guys updated!

SRT4
06-28-2004, 02:45 AM
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