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loco
06-25-2004, 04:56 PM
My first thread, hope you guys will go easy on me. :wavey Actually I have more than one question.



I`m a Zaino user and love the durability, but I`d like more depth to the shine. I know many of you use a carnauba wax such as Souveran over synthetic sealants to improve the appearance. This is something I`m interested in trying.



I`ve got a few questions about this, though.



1. Does the carnauba wax last the same amount of time over a synthetic as it does by itself (a month or two, I assume)?



2. If you put carnauba over Zaino, is it absolutely necessary to Dawn wash before you add more Zaino layers -- even if you wait, like, six months before trying to add more Zaino?



3. Does putting the carnauba over the synthetic really provide that great and obvious a difference? And, if so, which brand do you guys recommend?



Thanks in advance for any help/tips you can provide!

imported_BretFraz
06-25-2004, 05:00 PM
:welcome to Autopia



To answer your questions:



1. Yes



2. It`s a good idea as you have to remove any residual wax prior to more Zaino coats.



3. I`ve topped Zaino with a couple different brands and can`t say I`ve noticed a big difference in shine or in products. The oils in wax do create a warm sort of glow because light is being diffused somewhat instead of reflected. But the customer`s I`ve done this for like the effect. It`s worth a try just to see for yourself. I recommend S100 wax, avail at Harley Davidson dealers for about $15/jar.

loco
06-25-2004, 05:06 PM
Thanks for the welcome and the helpful information!



I just thought of another question. If you top with carnauba, is it still OK to use the Z6 spray after subsequent car washes? I`ve never tried Z6 on wax, only Zaino.

LouisanaJeeper
06-25-2004, 05:11 PM
Straight Zaino

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/9111gt__0689.jpg

Zaino topped w/#16

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/9111stang_1213.jpg

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/9111stang_1215.jpg

a little differnt lighting + scenery...but you can see the wax makes it a little blurrier, and less shiney but deeper and blacker

loco
06-25-2004, 05:16 PM
Thank you for those pictures! Yes, it`s a slightly different look.



I love Zaino, but it`s so reflective that sometimes, depending on the surroundings, the car almost seems to blend into the scenery or just become one big mirror. :)

LouisanaJeeper
06-25-2004, 05:19 PM
you will be able to use Z6 on wax... or a generic, cheaper QD like Eagle 1 WET QD

wanabe
06-25-2004, 06:27 PM
i have topped my zaino with p21s for a couple years now and use several detailers sprays, including z6... they all work fine over the p21s.

i also throw more z2 over the top every few months, so i likely have a sandwich with many layers (had close to 20 layers of z2 before my last polish!).

i like the depth and dust repellent features that the carnuba gives to the zaino-