SSR1 vs. VM

[maecrispy]

Hi all,



Looking to cut down on material costs for jobs so I want to start buying in bulk. VM is currently my goto cleaner/glaze before my LSP. However, I can`t seem to find it in gallon sizes. I`m considering SSR1 as a substitue since I hear good things about it and it`s readily available in large sizes.



Can those of you with experience with both chime in on how the two compare with respect to the following?:



Cleaning (i.e. chemical, oxidation removal, etc..)

Repair (I believe VM is non-abrasive and SSR1 is slightly abrasive)

Filling

Finish (glossy, wet, etc...)



Thanks all!

[Scottwax]

Vanilla Moose is more directly comparible to Poorboy`s Professional Polish or Polish w/carnauba, both of which are available in gallon size. SSR1 is closer to Meguiars #9.

[maecrispy]

Thanks for the response Scottwax. The comparisons make it clear now where VM and SSR1 fit into the scheme of things. Looks like I`ll be adding PP, SSR1, and SSR2.5 to my aresenal.



I`m surprised there aren`t more responses actually. I was under the impression both VM and SSR1 are very popular and used by many.

[imported_NHBFAN]

Originally posted by maecrispy

Hi all,



Looking to cut down on material costs for jobs so I want to start buying in bulk



That`s why I buy PwC buy the gallon. VM is great, but buying by the pint with shipping fees are brutual.



I think the results between PwC and VM are negligible.

[maecrispy]

Hmm.. this leads to the next question then. Are PwC and PP as easy to work with as VM? Part of VM`s attraction is how easy it goes on and comes off, even in sun.

[imported_NHBFAN]

VM is possibly the easiest product I`ve ever used, but PwC is close.



Can`t really speak of PP. I have some, but haven`t had a chance to use it yet. From what I`ve read there`s a "learning curve" working with PP though.

[maecrispy]

Excellent! Thanks for the feedback. I`ll probably pick both up and experiment then. I myself am probably one of the few freaks that don`t enjoy the carnauba look as much as the shiny sealant look so I`m hoping that PP will be a good substitue for VM. However, I do have to give what my clients want so it sounds like PwC deserves a place in my arsenal (especially given Steve`s reasonable prices.)



Thanks!

[BRUN]

jus thought id add to this, a reply i got from Poorboys regarding the PWC and PP



"the Polish W/ Carnauba can be applied like a wax and will then do some filling, the Professional polish will hide nothing and actually show you all your defects."



i dont think VM is comparable to PP, probably more to PWC ?



and not that i know that much yet, bit of a n00b to all this, but ive read a lot, id say the PP is probably similar to SSR1

[kartoon]

I haven`t used these yet, but it seems to me like PP is a non-abrasive cleaner, dare I say somewhat like AIO (although without providing any protection).

Perhaps the closest match for PP would be P21 Paintwork Cleanser ?



Polish w/Carnuba most likely can only be topped with a carnuba wax as the sealants probably won`t be able to bond.

[Mr. Clean]

Originally posted by kartoon

Polish w/Carnuba most likely can only be topped with a carnuba wax as the sealants probably won`t be able to bond.



I`m pretty sure Scottwax and others top PWC with EX and EX-P, I believe both are considered sealants. Several members top CK`s VM with sealants.

[tpgsr]

If you want lots of VM, call up Everett and ask for it by the case and what price he can give you that way

[imported_COBRyan]

Originally posted by Mr. Clean

I`m pretty sure Scottwax and others top PWC with EX and EX-P, I believe both are considered sealants. Several members top CK`s VM with sealants.



I top PwC with EX-P, EX, S100, #16, CM, pretty much anything. I do the same with VM.

[Scott P]

Originally posted by kartoon



Polish w/Carnuba most likely can only be topped with a carnuba wax as the sealants probably won`t be able to bond.



PwC takes most toppers quite well. It gies a nice look on silver and white when combined with EX or especially EX-P.