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ACURA95
06-21-2004, 01:59 PM
Today I ordered a gallon of Dacp from meguiars and was told to only follow it up with nxt. They said following up with #82 or #80 wasnt really necessary. I spoke with you on the phone a week ago about my possible single stage paint and its condition. Im not sure if you recall. Anyways, are they correct or should I change my order before it ships. Please respond ASAP



By the way the sales staff was very helful and professional.:up



TIA

overtheedge
06-21-2004, 02:39 PM
Well, I`ll throw in my 2c before Mike jumps in. If you work DACP long enough as directed, it would be possible to go straight to your protectant. Only time you might have to follow up with #82 or other polish is if it was a dark color such as red or black. It would then be possible to see some very fine marring created by the pad (if you used a cutting pad) and or the DACP.

ACURA95
06-21-2004, 02:49 PM
overthedge,

Thats what I have, A single stage black car with alot of marring.

Dammit, I knew I should have gone followed with #82 or possibly #80. After I decide to do that and the guy convinced me it wasnt necessary. I think 80 is a pure polish and might be better. Should I call back and change my order before it ships?



TIA



TIA

overtheedge
06-21-2004, 02:59 PM
It might be possible. If you start out with a cutting pad to remove the current swirls, you may be able to follow up with DACP and a polishing pad to polish it out. The cutting pad is going to leave some marring. I just assumed you were going to have to start with it. If you work DACP again with a less aggressive pad, you may be able to go straight to your protectant coat. I`m not sure. I know on mine I had to follow with #82 SFP and a polish pad after DACP and a cutting pad. NXT may be able to hide any micro marring that may be left after the first application. I`ve read enough post on sites that I just followed up with a less aggressive polish.



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ACURA95
06-21-2004, 03:04 PM
I dont mind following with #82, They told me at tech support that there is no need to follow up with anything. I read a couple of threads that said tech support wasnt great. Maybe I should have listened.

04BlackAV
06-21-2004, 03:08 PM
If you shop around and have a local NAPA store or something like that you can find it locally.Or do a dealer locate Here. (http://www.meguiars.com/DealerLocator/DealerLocator_template.cfm)

ACURA95
06-21-2004, 03:12 PM
I did but for the price at napa I can get a gallon for three dollars more. Meguiars was really great and price matched it for me and a gallon came out to around 25 including shipping.

slov98
06-21-2004, 03:37 PM
try posting this in the meguiars forum here on autopia , you may get a faster response

04BlackAV
06-21-2004, 03:40 PM
If you have a NAPA and you missed the boat on your order then you could always get a 16oz bottle of #9 to have just in case you need it and it shouldn`t cost that much.

ACURA95
06-21-2004, 03:46 PM
I dont think I missed the boat, I just dont know what to do. If you guys think i should follow with 82 ill do that. I bought a gallon of #83 for pretty much just myself and If im barely going to use it I need to know. Everyone has a different opinion. I dont even know if my paint is too soft for #83.



I just need some feedback before its too late.

04BlackAV
06-21-2004, 03:55 PM
I bought a quart of #83 locally and that will more than likely last me quite a while.I also bought some #80 as an in between the #83 and #9.For me and having black I need something mild around as I`m sure to need it.I would never think that just having #83 would be enough to cover every situation.

overtheedge
06-21-2004, 04:01 PM
It wouldn`t hurt to have some #82 or #80 around for those casual touch-ups. You are not going to need DACP everytime you get light marring. Something to think about.

Mike_Phillips
06-21-2004, 04:17 PM
I hope I can help out if it`s not too late...



The purpose of following the #83 DACP with a second polish is two-fold.





1) One reason is to use less aggressive cleaner/polish to remove any marring left behind by the #83 DACP. Such as these,



M-8232 Swirl Free Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-82)



Speed Glaze (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?parentURL=index_pro.cfm&sku=M-80)



M-0916 Swirl Remover 2.0 (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?parentURL=index_pro.cfm&sku=M-09)





2) The second reason would be to increase gloss and to add more richness to the paint. Meguiar`s pure polishes are very rich in polishing oils that add clarity and add richness to the paint to make the color more vibrant. Any of the below would add richness to single-stage black paint.





M-81 Hand Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-81)



M-07 Show Car Glaze (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=M-07)



Deep Crystal Polish (http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detail.cfm?sku=A-21)





Sorry for the late response, I was given VIP passes for myself and my family to watch SpaceShipOne rocket into space and win 10 Million Dollars! (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1471)



I just posted some pictures to the above thread... looks like I might get to buff out my first Space Ship next month!



Mike

3Wheeler
06-21-2004, 10:39 PM
Hey Mike, pleased to “meet†you. :cool:



So I read your post (thanks for which and for all your others, by the way:up ), but I still have questions (what else is new :rolleyes: ).



I take it that the first group are products you’d use if you wanted to accomplish your first reason (post-DACP cleanup), and that the second group are those you’d use for the second reason (richer, glossier, more oils into paint).



Have I got this right? Isn’t there a product that can accomplish both reasons?



Also, in the description of the second group of products, you say:





[i]Originally posted by Mike Phillips Meguiar`s pure polishes are very rich in polishing oils that add clarity and add richness to the paint to make the color more vibrant. Any of the below would add richness to single-stage black paint. [/B]



Does this mean that the products in the second group are the only pure polishes listed, and that the first group are not? Is there an accepted standard for what constitutes "pure" polish?



Thanks Mike,

~3W

Scottwax
06-21-2004, 10:53 PM
You might get to detail a spaceship? Too :cool:



Remember to use the new hotness, #80 Speed Glaze on it. ;)