View Full Version : Zaino with Meguiar`s?
lflorack
06-01-2004, 08:59 PM
I`ve recently started using Zaino products and specifically enjoy
using Z2/Z5, ZFX and Z6. it gives an excellent shine that lasts a long time! Although I use the Z7 (wash) with good results, I had previously used Meguiar`s Gold Class Car Wash Shampoo & Conditioner and have quite a bit of it still on my shelves. I would like to know if I can use it with the Z2/5/6 combination without difficulty?
Along the same lines, I have a quantity of Meguiar`s Quik
Detailer too. Same question as above...can use it with the Z2/5/6
combination without difficulty?
Thanks!
ZaneO
06-01-2004, 10:13 PM
They won`t cause a problem, but they won`t give you optimum results.
dternst
06-01-2004, 10:49 PM
I agree with Zane O. The Zaino Product line is formulated to work optimally as a unit.
imported_Unreal
06-01-2004, 10:52 PM
Doesnt the Megs Quick Detailer contain carnuba that would prevent further applications of "Z"?
topnotchtouch
06-02-2004, 05:44 AM
This is the kind of question I have been trying to get solid answers for. I was always under the impression that you had to remove ALL oils prior to applying Zaino. Recently I heard though that Sal himself has suggested that you can use 3M SMR and immediately follow that with Zaino without first removing the oils in the 3M SMR. This is where the confusion starts for me. If you can apply Zaino over 3M SMR than what else can you apply it over.
If you don`t think that 3M SMR has oils in it than take a look at the MSDS.
http://www3.3m.com/search/ww/en001/keywordsearchform.do
lflorack
06-02-2004, 06:27 PM
To respond to my own question.....
When I posted this question here, I also sent a message to Sal Zaino directly. I posted the question here as well because, to be honest, I didn`t expect such rapid response from Sal. Well, I was wrong. He sent a message back very quickly. I thought I`d post his response here:
Lee Florack wrote:
> I`ve recently started using Zaino products and specifically enjoy
> using Z2/Z5, ZFX and Z6. it gives the best shine I`ve ever had!
> Although I use the Z7 with good results, I had previously used
> Meguiar`s Gold Class Car Wash Shampoo & Conditioner and have
> quite a bit of it still on my shelves. I would like to know if I
> can use it with the Z2/5/6 combination without difficulty?
Yes, you can use any other Car Wash for that matter.
They will not hurt the durability of Zaino Show Car polish.
This reason I specify to only use Z-7 Car Wash. It is specifically
designed for my polish products and is a really great product. It will
Clean 100 times better than any other Car Wash. Z-7 will
reinforce the polish system each time you use it. It contains UV-40, a
lubricant to resist scratching from dirt and Show Car polish to add
gloss. It is optically perfect just like my polish and will not leave a
detergent film like other car wash products leave. If you use another
Car Wash
make sure to Z-6 the car after you dry it to remove the detergent film
left
behind by
Brand X Car wash....
>
>
> Along the same lines, I have a quantity of Meguiar`s Quik
> Detailer to. Same question as above...can use it with the Z2/5/6
> combination without difficulty?
No!!!!. Please Do not put any other detailer on top of Zaino.
Zaino Show Car Polish is 99.9% optically perfect. Do not put anything
on
top of Zaino except Zaino. That would defeat the whole purpose of my
product.
Z-6 and Meguiars detailer are two completely different products.....
Stay away from other brand Quick detailers. They are not
compatible with Zaino. Most of these product are just water, propanol
and silicone oil, they will leave a film on Zaino and detract from the
optical clarity.
They will also make your car more prone to dust pickup. Plus the dust
will stick to your paint finish. Dust sticking to paint = Swirl Marks
&
fine scratches.
Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray was designed for use over Show Car polish.
It will bond to Show Car polish and increase gloss, light
reflectivety,
durability and provide the antistatic effect.
Z-6 can be used immediately after removing Z-2 or Z-5 polish for an
extra Gloss Boost. Or you can use Z-6 right before you apply your next
coat of polish. Most of my customers use Z-6 right after the polish
removal and then before they apply the next coat of polish, to remove
any light dust. Either way is up to you. Z-6 is also a great quick
detailer between car washes, to remove light dust and soil, bug
dropping
and any water spots.
Z-6 really helps give a three dimensional look. Its antistatic formula
will reduce dust and dirt pickup by 60%. Use Z-6 very sparingly, less
than one ounce will do your whole car. Very lightly mist only the
center of a 1 foot square
section on the car. Immediately buff with a 100% cotton towel until
dry.
You will feel the surface get slicker and slicker. Turn towel
frequently. Repeat on next section until entire car is finished. Do
not
let Z-6 dry on car. If Z-6 drys by itself just reapply Z-6 to affected
area and rebuff until completely dry. Then get the sunglasses out.
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lee Florack
--
Thank You,
Sal Zaino
(732)833-8800
http://www.zainobros.com
ZaneO
06-02-2004, 06:46 PM
Makes sense. Sal is a pretty good guy.
Mike_Phillips
06-02-2004, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by TQB
Doesnt the Megs Quick Detailer contain carnuba that would prevent further applications of "Z"?
Quik Detailer contains no Carnauba wax.
And just to add to that...
Quik Wax does contains some Carnauba Wax
NXT Tech Wax contains no Carnauba Wax...
Mike
p.s.
How does one quantify "Optically Clear"?
imported_Unreal
06-02-2004, 07:20 PM
Sorry Mike I had the Quick Detailer and Quick Wax confussed.
Again Sorry wasnt knocking the product.
Mike_Phillips
06-02-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by TQB
Sorry Mike I had the Quick Detailer and Quick Wax confussed.
Again Sorry wasnt knocking the product.
No apologies needed, I just wanted to do my best to clarify.
I get similar questions every Saturday over quick detailers.
Mike
imported_BretFraz
06-02-2004, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Quik Detailer contains no Carnauba wax.
And just to add to that...
Quik Wax does contains some Carnauba Wax
NXT Tech Wax contains no Carnauba Wax...
Mike
p.s.
How does one quantify "Optically Clear"?
Didn`t you do a little test with Klasse Sealant Glaze and Saran wrap in order to offer insight to this question?
Mike_Phillips
06-02-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by bretfraz
Didn`t you do a little test with Klasse Sealant Glaze and Saran wrap in order to offer insight to this question?
Yes, I did, it dried milky white. In fact, nothing I have tested dries 99.9% optically clear.
Bret, with all your experience and first hand knowledge, can you add anything insightful?
Mike
rstype
06-02-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by ZaneO
Makes sense. Sal is a pretty good guy.
Me thinks Sal is a busy chemist, who lets his assistants handle the emails. I doubt that reply was from Sal himself.
ZaneO
06-02-2004, 10:27 PM
Maybe you should call and talk with him yourself before you start ASSuming things :D
imported_BretFraz
06-02-2004, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Bret, with all your experience and first hand knowledge, can you add anything insightful?
Mike
Sure!! After almost three years and 3300 posts here, I`ve added plenty.