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AZ Ferrari Man
09-28-2004, 09:04 PM
Hi guys (and girls) has anyone used the Klasse AIO topped with either EX-P or EX. I ask because this would save alot of time in a full detail for the AIO doesn`t have to cure and you can go straight to topping with an EX. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Heres what I do with a new/good conditioned car
1.PB polish w/carnauba or Klasse AIO (maybe, depends on reactions)
2.EX on dark and EX-P on light colors (hand)

Swirled and oxidized
1.clay
2.SS2
3.PB polish or adams brillance or AIO (depending) to remove any more haze or imperfections
4.EX-P or EX (hand)
4.Natty`s (if desired by client) (hand)


Thankyou for your help!

Andrew

awd330
09-28-2004, 09:20 PM
EX-P (and to a lesser extent EX) tends to take on the characteristics of the previous layer. So, choose a prep product which matches your final appearance goals.

AIO leaves a bright and clean look, though somewhat lacking in depth or gloss. PwC is a bit darker and wetter with more depth. Something like VM would give you a very glossy look.

f1guy68
09-28-2004, 10:03 PM
AZ Ferrari Man,

Lucky for you, I have just finshed applying this combo to my Black Hyundai Elantra GT!

Here was my process:

Wash with Mother`s California Gold Wash
Clay Not Required
Polish with Poorboys SSR 1.0
AIO X 2
Poorboys EX-P X 1 (Right After AIO)

This is my first time using EX-P

Sorry for the picture quality!

Tommorow will apply a layer of Souveran

What Do You Think???

http://www.detailcity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4552

http://www.detailcity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4553

http://www.detailcity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4554

MattZ28
09-28-2004, 10:42 PM
f1guy68 - That Hyundai looks very good! :bigups

Woob
09-28-2004, 10:50 PM
PwC + EX x 3 = :drool :D

mtodde
09-28-2004, 11:49 PM
I have topped AIO with EX-P on my silver Solara with outstanding results (in my eyes, LOL).

Here`s a pic from the day I did it...The EX-P noticeably improved for the next few days and after the first wash:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/mtodde/Todd128.jpg

mtodde
09-28-2004, 11:51 PM
Another pic from the same day:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/mtodde/Todd123.jpg

Thomas Dekany
09-28-2004, 11:58 PM
here is another AIO/EXP detail

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tdekany/110_1093.jpg

AZ Ferrari Man
09-29-2004, 12:39 AM
so, if on a light colored car I should use AIO to EX-P, and on a dark car I should go with PB Polish w/car. and then EX for that wet look? Where does the klearcote Vanilla Moose come into play? Can I use that in replacement of AIO and PB for both? Thanks!

Andrew

AZ Ferrari Man
09-29-2004, 01:14 AM
Has anyone used speed glaze of machine glaze from Meguiars Pro-line? I think that would go nice in the 1. Clay 2. SSR2 3.Speedglaze 4. EX/EX-P

edschwab1
09-29-2004, 01:21 AM
Nice work everybody. F1guy68, I wish the ladies checked out my car.

Eric

Thomas Dekany
09-29-2004, 08:22 AM
so, if on a light colored car I should use AIO to EX-P, and on a dark car I should go with PB Polish w/car. and then EX for that wet look? Where does the klearcote Vanilla Moose come into play? Can I use that in replacement of AIO and PB for both? Thanks!

Andrew

VM/EX+P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tdekany/109_0903.jpg

SSR2.5, PwC, EX+P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tdekany/113_1324.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/tdekany/113_1312.jpg

awd330
09-29-2004, 09:26 AM
so, if on a light colored car I should use AIO to EX-P, and on a dark car I should go with PB Polish w/car. and then EX for that wet look? Where does the klearcote Vanilla Moose come into play? Can I use that in replacement of AIO and PB for both? Thanks!

Andrew
There`s no hard and fast rule about which combos look best on which colors. It`s all a matter of personal preference. Just because you have a dark colored car, it doesn`t mean that your preference should be to try to make it even darker looking through your choice of detailing products. AIO, PwC, VM, and many other polishes could be used as a base coat with no cure time. It`s usually the sealants themselves, rather than the polish, that need time to cure.

NYV6Coupe
09-29-2004, 11:23 AM
Lots of excellent work here. Great pics everyone.

Surface finish is in the eye of the beholder. One person`s "perfection" is someone else`s "strip off & redo".

f1guy68
09-29-2004, 01:42 PM
edschwab1


Nice work everybody. F1guy68, I wish the ladies checked out my car.

I agree...all the cars look super!

As for the ladies checking out my car...well the lady in the picture has to look as she is my wife...lol