View Full Version : Zaino Z-5 question
imported_Unreal
04-21-2004, 05:48 PM
Will Multiple layers of z-5 darken the paint at all?
Well I finally got the Zaino on my truck and I must say it looks awesome and the shine is second to none.
The problem is I dont really like it. It made my paint look very light and there is almost no depth to it and there is no wet look at all just a incredible shine.
Would adding like 5-6 or more layers of Z-5 acheive this?
How about something like AIO or Menzerna FP under it?
Topping with Trade Secret or P21S?
kustomsol
04-21-2004, 06:16 PM
If you are now swirl and light scratch free, use Z-2 + ZFX .Here`s what the Zainostore.com says:
"9. You can switch to Z-2 as soon as you are happy with the way the paint finish looks. Example, no more swirls, scratches etc. It`s up to you. Z-2 has higher optical properties than Z-5. You can go from Z-2 to Z-5 and then back to Z-2 as often as you want. Z-2 and Z-5 are 100% compatible and interchangeable. You should always end with Z-2 as the last coat because of its higher optics."
This is the sitre for application instructions from Zaino:
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Z&Category_Code=APPLICATION
imported_Unreal
04-21-2004, 06:20 PM
HRP
I have read and re read that and have even printed it. I am just trying to find something or someway to darken it up a little bit. I thought I read somewhere multiple layers of Z-5 would do this. Not sure though.
Mindflux
04-21-2004, 06:28 PM
Well, yeah, zaino isn`t really good for depth, atleast on light color vehicles.. I`ve found, incredible shine though.
imported_Unreal
04-21-2004, 06:31 PM
MindFlux I couldnt agee more on the shine. I have never used anything that has made this much shine. Guess maybe it just isnt meant for my color wich is a shame cause I love the shine just not the overall look.
SK2003TypeS
04-21-2004, 06:33 PM
Z5 looks a little "darker" on my car than Z2, but not much. I`m guessing you`re working with the black truck in you avatar ?
Mindflux
04-21-2004, 06:34 PM
You might want to give 1Z products a go, it looks like you have used them in the past?? I hear they give off wonderful depth.
imported_Unreal
04-21-2004, 06:40 PM
SK2003TypeS
Yeah I am working with the truck in the Avatar but its actually Dark Shadow Grey Metallic,
Here is a pic:
http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v105/TQB125/4-18-043.jpg
What about using a Carnuba topper?
Blk_Mach
04-21-2004, 07:32 PM
z5 didnt do crap for my red gt
the aio topped with p21s sounds good!
p21s gives me a better shine than z2 or z5 imo...z5 is meant to fill swirls but it doesent!
imported_Unreal
04-21-2004, 07:37 PM
ERAN,
I have thought of topping it with either P21S or Trade Secret but didnt know if it would do anything?
Deanski
04-21-2004, 08:13 PM
My results from Zaino was also a bright shine.
However, topping it with Souveran darkened/warmed-up the red very nicely!
If you ddon`t like it, strip off the wax and keep the Zaino-only sealant on the finish.
I`m about to try the Wolfgang/Soveran combo soon.
Too many products.... too little time
Regards,
Deanski
Dinzdale40
04-21-2004, 08:16 PM
Maybe EX will have the same effect as on Zaino as it does SG...
Check out my car`s black finish in direct sunlight with Sgx2+EX....
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/328000-328999/328949_94_full.jpg
Blk_Mach
04-21-2004, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Deanski
My results from Zaino was also a bright shine.
However, topping it with Souveran darkened/warmed-up the red very nicely!
If you ddon`t like it, strip off the wax and keep the Zaino-only sealant on the finish.
I`m about to try the Wolfgang/Soveran combo soon.
Too many products.... too little time
Regards,
Deanski
thats tomarrows.. detail wg/p21s
I just did a (sorry no pics) z5, z5, z5, z2, P21S on my dark green metallic accord, I definatley see the green metallic more now that I added the P21S Carnuba topper.