Abrasive polishes...

[GoodnClean]

Well guys, it was 55 degrees here today, so its making me think of that spring detail I`m gonna do...



So far I`ve ironed out what I`m going to do, the only wildcard is the abrasive polish. I have DACP, #9, SMR, PI-III-MG. I like DACP on other finishes, but for some reason on the Lexus I just can`t get it to break down enough and leave a pristine finish. There really isn`t anything serious on the car, just some micro-marring from washing it in the salty nasty winter weather, really got to crane and try to see it. I was planning on using PI-III-MG with a yellow pad then following up with PwC and a white pad, but am looking for another product to take the place of the PI-III (I`m not sure it will be abrasive enough).



What does everyone think? Menzerna, Megs Speed Glaze? I`m open to any and all suggestions, any experiences comparing these products to DACP and PI-III-MG will be extra super great.



Or, maybe the PI-III-MG will be enough...



Thanks gang :xyxthumbs

[breakneckvtec]

I would use DACP and then follow it with #9 to remove any of the fine micro marring, but I hate to screw around with things that MIGHT do the job. I usually go against the autopian grain and use a heavy hitter like DACP to KO the swirls and then step down if need be. The way I see, and lets face it, its not like your going to go through the clear using DACP a few times a year. Dont mess around, take them swirls out the first time :xyxthumbs

[Frank F.]

I just finished my black Porsche C4S. The car is three months old. I started with Menzerna IP and then FP. I was worried that the IP would be too abrasive for a new black car so I tried it on my motorhome. The IP did not leave swirl marks but it did cloud the finish a little. When I followed this with the FP the result was excellent. Next I used the Klasse twins and finally P21S Carnauba. I have learned a lot from this forum.



Thanks everyone.

[GoodnClean]

I like DACP for removing swirls on most finishes, but I just can`t get it down right when it comes to the Lexus. I was thinking maybe something like the Menzerna twins would remove the marring and do it in a slightly more precise (the only word I can think of to describe it) manner...

[Accumulator]

The 3M PI-III RC (pn 05933) is a lot milder than it sounds. Maybe IT would work better for you than the DACP. Then follow up with the MG. Some paints just respond better/worse to certain products than do other paints :nixweiss .



I myself REALLY like the 1Z line of polishes, maybe they`d be worth a look.



Plenty of people like the Menzerna polishes, there are so many good choices these days.

[SamIam]

i agree with your choices.



I used to use the 3MRC and it worked pretty well in removing some scratches, followed up with 3M SMR FDC.



Now I use 1Z polishes, got the whole product line waiting for the weather to clear up. At first, I wasn`t sold on the Paint Polish, but then I pulled the car out into the daylight and it was: WOW. This stuff works.



Works great by hand or machine.

[GoodnClean]

The 1Z polishes confuse me a little, I`ll have to do some searching.



Thanks guys, keep the advice commin!

[Jesstzn]

I have had good luck with the Menzerna on my B5.5 .. used the IP where needed and the FP all over. And will again if spring ever gets here again. I like it cuz its water based and no fillers.



This was prepped with menzerna



Reflections (http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/12805stang.jpg)

[GoodnClean]

They`re relatively inexpensive, I suppose its worth a try!

[chrisd]

I`m kind of partial to the 3M stuff. I know their products are expensive, but I`ve never had any problems with hazing or micromarring, whether using my rotary or my PC. Also, their pads and backing plates are among the best quality I`ve seen. I think 3M`s use of the name "rubbing compound" turns off many people with nice paint. But like a lot of people have said here, if you stick with the fine-cut and use reasonable speeds/pressure, it`s not all that aggressive. I`m not recommending you use it on a regular basis, but it`s certainly nothing like the old scratch-inducing products of yesteryear that also went by the name "rubbing compound".

[togwt]

Quote: I just finished my black Porsche C4S. The car is three months old. I started with Menzerna IP and then FP. I was worried that the IP would be too abrasive for a new black car so I tried it on my motorhome. The IP did not leave swirl marks but it did cloud the finish a little. When I followed this with the FP the result was excellent. Next I used the Klasse twins and finally P21S Carnauba. I have learned a lot from this forum.





~One mans opinion / observation~



Frank F: Did I understand correctly, IP-FP-AIO-SG-P21S?



Why I’m questioning it is AIO contains a solvent cleaner and will remove anything else on the paint film surface. Its primary function is as a pre-cleaner to SG (or whatever wax sealant)





~Hope this helps~





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justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*

[SuperBuick]

TOGWT - I think his process makes sense because the menzerna line of polishes does not leave anything behind after you remove it. They are water-based with no fillers, so using AIO after polishing with the IP and FP isn`t "removing" anything. True, it`s cleaning abilities are going to waste because the menzerna polishes have already done that job and more, but I don`t think using the AIO in there is causing any harm or removing anything on the paint surface, because with menzerna, there shouldn`t be anything left over to remove (no oils or fillers)



-Tom

[breakneckvtec]

~One mans opinion / observation~







~Hope this helps~





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TOGWT, I have to ask, WTF is this? I see it in all your posts and quite frankly, not to be a ****....its annoying trying to figure out where your post is in this garbage.