Which MF to use for what?

[m3lawdawg]

I just got these and would like to know which ones to use for wax removal, buffing, etc.........



2 12 x 16 Ultra • 2 16 x 16 Ultra • 2 15 x 16 Detail 70/30

• 1 16 x 16 Ultra Plush • 1 16 x 24 Ultra Soft 75/25 • 2 15 x 25 Detail 70/30

• 1 16 x 27 Waffle Weave • 2 16 x 16 Ultra Soft 75/25





These came from vaporcleanproducts.com



Oh yeah first post.

[Patrick]

Welcome to Autopia.....

I would go ahead and try them all with the exception of the waffle weaves ! With MF`s, its all about personal preference...The majority of folks here use 16x16`s....Some like them more plush than others.....Some use 1 specific towel for all their jobs, (like me)....Except drying, thats where waffle weaves are unbeatable....

I have two uses for them, removing products,and drying, and thats about it, so varying sizes arent so important for me....

Give the small ones a whirl, and then move up in size, until you find the one that works best for you.......

[PrecisionOnline]

Welcome!



You can use the Ultras for anything you wish, like Patrick said. But I`d use the Ultra Plush for final wipe down and delivery. Smaller ones can be used for glass, door jams, lids, etc. And waffle for drying.

[foris2]

Welcome, I can`t anything to what Patrick and PrecisionOnline has said. If anyone knows about MF`s, Patrick does. I have a couple dozen MF`s, but I`ve got to order a few of the WW`s from Patrick when I get paid.

[m3lawdawg]

Thanks for the info, hopefully this eastcoast weather will clear out and I can use this weekend.

[chris0626]

I`m really not sure what the "Ultra," "Ultra Soft," etc. mean ... but ... I`ve been pondering this question for a day, trying to frame an answer, `cause I still feel like a newbie myself, and I remember when I wanted something more like a "recipe" than "guidance."



I think eventually you`ll find it`s sorta like that congressman who said "I can`t define pornography, but I know it when I see it."



I have at least 8 major different sorts of MFs -- from thin, high-quality MFs ... to thick high-qualilty MFs ... to various types of WWs ... to David`s CBT. Having used them for just a little while, something happened where, when I`m doing a particular task (QDing or glass-cleaning or wax/sealant removal), my hand just seems to know which one it wants to grab. I`ve learned a few "definitive" rules for my own work -- like I only use the WW for drying, and I always grab the CBT for QDing -- but I still can`t articulate what makes me grab the thinner, "velvety" MF vs. the "plusher" MF.



Maybe other members here can be more definitive about this -- which type to use for which task. But I haven`t yet gotten analytical enough about this to do more than I`ve said here.

[Patrick]

Lynn, i think reference to plush, super this, super that, velvetee plush, microsoftplushvelvet, blah blah blah.....

A picture describes better than explanation IMO.......Its marketing jargon, period.......I go with plush when i describe mine, and that its, lol....When you get into weights (gms), then your talking "plushness"......Its obvious if one weighs 58 grams, and another weighs 64, one could assume the 64 is plusher (thicker).....(providing its the same size)

[chris0626]

Thanks for that, Patrick. I was wondering if these were really "definitive" descriptions or merely marketing jargon. Sounds like it`s the latter. Which maybe underscores that the detailer has to make his/her own judgment about which MF is better for which job?? :nixweiss

[Patrick]

I think most are probably left better off believing that also......

[medic159]

Originally posted by Patrick

...ts obvious if one weighs 58 grams, and another weighs 64, one could assume the 64 is plusher (thicker).....(providing its the same size)



Totally false, way off base on that one.

First of all a 64 gram fabric would be as thin as tissue paper! Weight is quoted in grams per square meter (gr/m2), or ounces per square yard.



Gram weight and thickness have nothing to do with each other. i.e.: denim is heavier in gr/m2 than terry but which is plusher? The weights for a 16 oz denim (543 gr/m2) and a 250 gr/m2 terry are quite different yet the terry is considerably plusher.



How plush a towel is also has nothing to do with it`s polishing or cleaning abilities, those are directly related to composition, thread construction, and weave.



There is just too much false info floating around and all it does is confuse people who should not be worried about it. Users should stay away from the technical aspects and stick to "touch... feel... performance... preference" and forget everything else.

[Patrick]

When i speak of weight, im speaking of "product" weight, not materials wt per Sq Yd......After all, im not selling a product that is a sq yd.