View Full Version : Buying products in bulk and shelf life?
imported_NHBFAN
12-06-2003, 09:57 AM
I recently purchased a pint of VM and it cost me $12 + $8 shipping (ouch!).
So I`m looking into buying my "staples" in bulk whenever possible.
I`m specifically interested in:
1. AIO which I can purchase in 1 or 3 liters.
2. VM - Does anyone know if you can special order a larger size than a pint?
If not, I`ll buy a few pints at once to lessen the shipping whammy
3. FD - 5 gallons
I`m not a pro, but I do maintain more vehicles than my own, eg. friend, relatives
Does anyone see a problem with shelf lifes of any of these products?
Accumulator
12-06-2003, 11:04 AM
NHBFAN- I hardly EVER have a problem with shelf-life. Just don`t let stuff freeze (or leave the top off/open).
My AIO has never gone bad. Some people have had SG get a bit stinky, but as I recall, it still WORKED ok.
I don`t believe VM is available in larger sizes. It DOES separate, so be sure to shake it up from time to time.
I haven`t tried FD yet, but I HAVE had some FI and Griot`s Speed Shine go bad after a LONG time (maybe five or more years) in a *VERY* HOT/COLD warehouse. Two or three years won`t be a problem, plenty of my products are much older than that and they`re fine.
Some leather-care products (especially those containing lanolin) don`t always age well. Maybe refrigeration is called for.
I`ve recently used some polishes and waxes that are over TEN years old, they worked just fine. But note that having a LOT of empty air space in the container is NOT good.
Bill D
12-06-2003, 11:12 AM
If you use Lexol, I asked them about shelf life and they said it is indefinite
ccreamer
12-06-2003, 12:23 PM
I asked ClearKote if VM was available in any sizes larger than a pint and the response I got was
"The Vanilla Wax Hand Glaze comes in pints only.
Everett"
I love this stuff though.
Cory
Spilchy
12-06-2003, 01:21 PM
I have a BOAT LOAD of products.
Since they sit for a while and there is air space in the bottle, every so often I just give a good shake and make sure the cap is on tight. This way things get mixed up.
I am investing in a cheap vacuum sealer, so I can seal up my paste waxes that come in the jars you need a screw driver to open since a lot of air can get in and dry up.
imported_NHBFAN
12-06-2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by ccreamer
I asked ClearKote if VM was available in any sizes larger than a pint and the response I got was
"The Vanilla Wax Hand Glaze comes in pints only.
Everett"
I love this stuff though.
Cory
Rats!!!
I love it too. Wished I could buy a gallon of VM.
Bill D
12-06-2003, 04:30 PM
I better not worry about shelf life either, just look at my signature.:D
Scottwax
12-06-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by NHBFAN
Rats!!!
I love it too. Wished I could buy a gallon of VM.
Maybe if there is enough demand he will. Or at least in quart sizes. I know he has the bottles because I have a quart of regular Moose Wax.
I go through most of my bulk products (like DACP and Swirl Free) in about 6 months, although it takes me a good year to go through a gallon of Hand Polish and I haven`t noticed any loss of product performance.
C-MDX
12-06-2003, 10:36 PM
Not sure if I`m right here but I heard somewhere that a clay bar can last for 3 years :confused:???
Accumulator
12-07-2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by C-MDX
Not sure if I`m right here but I heard somewhere that a clay bar can last for 3 years :confused:???
If you`re keeping it in a fairly airtight container, I`d be VERY surprised if it didn`t last a lot longer than that. I`ve used some Griot`s clay that I`d misplaced for several years and it worked just fine.
Spilchy
12-07-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by C-MDX
Not sure if I`m right here but I heard somewhere that a clay bar can last for 3 years :confused:???
Like I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, I have a Black and decker $39 vcuum sealer from Wal Mart that I vacuum seal my clay in. I also vacuum seal my wax cans like Blitz, 3M, Collinite etc... for storage not only during the winter when they dont get used, but year round because I can re-seal the bag!
If you are anal about your supplies and want to preserve them from drying or cracking over the years, invest in a cheap vacuum sealer.
imported_NHBFAN
12-07-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Scottwax
Maybe if there is enough demand he will. Or at least in quart sizes. I know he has the bottles because I have a quart of regular Moose Wax.
How do you contact Clearkote/Everett? Every time I try to link through "contact us" on Clearkote`s site my message comes back undeliverable.
C-MDX
12-07-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Spilchy
Like I mentioned in a previous post in this thread, I have a Black and decker $39 vcuum sealer from Wal Mart that I vacuum seal my clay in. I also vacuum seal my wax cans like Blitz, 3M, Collinite etc... for storage not only during the winter when they dont get used, but year round because I can re-seal the bag!
If you are anal about your supplies and want to preserve them from drying or cracking over the years, invest in a cheap vacuum sealer.
What if you just put it in the box that the clay bar previded when you bought it (e,g Z18, autopia clay kit)???
Scottwax
12-07-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by NHBFAN
How do you contact Clearkote/Everett? Every time I try to link through "contact us" on Clearkote`s site my message comes back undeliverable.
Here is his new e-mail address:
ck@crosstel.net
I guess the move to Oklahoma and a computer virus he got really messed him up.