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chip douglas
08-29-2003, 07:44 PM
I thought i`d share this with you, as i`m prolly not the only one to wonder about their abrasiveness scale, and most especially the machine glaze 05937, as it comes up often.....so here goes :





We do not measure compounds and glazes by grit size. While the mineral in

the various products are a specific size to the application, the liquid

they are suspended in also plays a large roll in how the finish will turn

out.



3M views paint repair this way; sand paper will have to be used to correct

the imperfections that a compound will not get out such as dust nibs, runs

and fish eyes. If scratches are too deep, a compound also may have

difficulty removing them (if you can feel a scratch with your fingernail,

it is probably right through the clear coat and will not be able to be

removed completely). With these defects, hand sanding wet with 1500, 2000

or 2500 and a firm block will do the trick. Machine sanding with P1500

will also work well, is faster and you can see your progress.



It is after the sanding step that we compound using either Perfect-It III

Rubbing Compound (PN 05733) or Extra Cut Rubbing Compound (PN 05736) and a

white foam or wool compounding pad to remove the sand scratches.

Obviously they finish a lot finer than the 1500, 2000 or 2500 sand paper to

achieve a gloss.



If swirl marks are present from the compound, the 05937 Machine Glaze is

used with a dark grey foam pad, like you said, in a 2 X 2 area with medium

pressure. To remove the swirl marks and leave a perfect finish would mean

that this product is for sure much finer than 2000 grit abrasive.



Adding a wax after this step depends on the clear coat. If it is not fully

cured, the wax may smother it and cause problems. It is best to check with

the paint company`s recommendations as to how long to wait prior to waxing.



The defects you describe in your e-mail may or may not be removed with

the 05737 alone. It was designed to remove swirl marks from the

compounding step. If the swirl marks are similar to that, then you should

not have a problem. To remove the scratches, you may have to sand and

compound as I described above.



I hope this helps you out. Please feel free to e-mail me back or call if

you have any further questions (800 265-1840 x2776)



Regards,



Bill Suzuki

Technical Service

3M CANADA COMPANY

















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Bill D
08-29-2003, 07:57 PM
Great info, wish we had some folks from 3m on board here to throw questions at. I purchased the PI III MG over Meg`s DACP because of reviews here but now I`m wondering if I should have both. Wondering how DACP compares in removing scratches both by hand and PC. Nevertheless, I was very satisifiedd with the shine the PI III MG left on my surface before I did the finish up steps to my detail.

chip douglas
08-29-2003, 08:03 PM
You re welcome Bill, as often as i can i like to contribute this forum......others helps me much, so this is my way of showing my appreciation ;)