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MBZ 500E
04-22-2003, 06:21 PM
Warning.....Long Post



I`ve been "seriously" working on my engine for the last couple of weeks and I feel like I`ve hit a wall. After seeing a few pics of some pristine engines I thought I would put together a list ot things I`ve done and compare it to what others are doing to get the perfect combination.



Initial Cleaning - Used Griots Engine Cleaner and a Nylon Detailing Brush. This was a very mild cleaner that removed the heavier grime and oil however it failed to remove the final layer of oil on most of my aluminum engine block.



Treating Rubber Hoses - For this I used Meguiars Vinyl & Rubber in their consumer line. I applied it with a cloth and wiped off any excess. I finished the hoses with Meguiars Final Detail to leave a dark satin finish.



Plastic - For now the only product I`m using for plastic is the Megs Final Detail.



For hard to reach spots I`ve been using Pig Spit (aerosol sprayed on). This leaves a semi clean looking finish which needs to be slightly buffed to look good. I would say this product is very similar to Griots Undercarriage spray although it doesn`t alter the color of the materials it touches.



Would love to hear some creative Autopian suggestions on the following:



1. For the rough sections of the aluminum engine block are there any products that will leave a nice natural looking finish? Keep in mind some spots are hard to reach.



2. Any suggestions on products that can clean in tight areas without scrubbing. My engine bay is extremely tight (enough so the engine needs to be pulled to do certain repairs:scared)

Preachers Sheets
04-22-2003, 07:32 PM
The more plastic and rubber the better. Think of how hard it is to make a engine bay look good when it`s full of metal.

Jngrbrdman
04-22-2003, 07:41 PM
There have been several discussions on engine detailing in the past. I`m sure the threads are still around. Just in case this thread doesn`t give you all the info you needed then maybe you could pull up the old ones.



Two products that I use for engine detailing are the CD-2 Engine Detailing Kit (You can do a search for that here. There are links.) and Advanage (http://www.advanage.com) concentrate. I actually mix the Advanage with some degreaser concentrate from ValuGuard. That degreaser will clean up just about everything. I swear by that stuff now. The CD-2 is what I use to shine up the hoses and plastics under the hood. The majority of the work gets done by my brew though. I`ve got a couple great examples in my gallery if you want to go up there and check that out. I`m sure you`ve already seen em if you`ve been searching for engine detailing threads. I just have nothing but good things to say about those products.

Cleanmaxx Brian
04-22-2003, 08:19 PM
And I thought I was the only one using Pig Spit;) Along with Griots Garage under carrage spray, you will have a NEW looking engine after it is cleaned.

Jngrbrdman
04-22-2003, 08:30 PM
dude, replace `link` with `url` and your links will work in your sig. Keep it to 3 lines though. ;)

Cleanmaxx Brian
04-22-2003, 08:55 PM
Thanks... It was just the way it was set up on my other board. Sorry about that:nixweiss Should be fixed now...

Acura_RL
04-22-2003, 09:14 PM
What`s your opinion of an all-purpose cleaner like Simple Green? I know Meg`s has a product called Extra All Purpose cleaner, but my hunch is that it`s probably corrosive one way or another.



I`m not a fan of doing much engine detailing. The true detailing of mechanical components is what goes inside of them, not how they look on the outside. Just IMO.

Jngrbrdman
04-22-2003, 09:48 PM
A true Autopian can`t let any leaf go unturned. You won`t ever see a car grace the pages of any magazine with the hood up and crud all over the place. The stuff under your hood is the second most expensive part of your car to replace besides the paint. It is something that isn`t hard to keep clean if you keep up on it. I only have to detail the engine maybe once a month and that is just shining the hoses and cleaning the painted surfaces. Takes 5 minutes.

Anthony O.
04-22-2003, 11:41 PM
My hint or tip for engine detailing is pay someone else to do it:)

MBZ 500E
04-23-2003, 09:54 AM
Jngrbrdman,



What dilution do you use the Advanage at? Does your method leave a natural and clean looking finish on the aluminum? My problem is that when I bought the car a year ago the oil cap and a few breather hoses were leaking and they managed to coat the whole top of the engine with sludge :( . The Griots removed the sludge but could not remove everything. It`s almost like there is a slight film of oil remaining.





CleanMaxx Brian,



Have you noticed any adverse affects of using the Pigspit. I`m only using it on mostly flat black painted surfaces and a few very hard to reach spots. I`ve also used it on some hard to reach wires. Just want to make sure that what I`m doing now won`t hurt the car down the road.



Acura RL,



I agree detailing inside is important (I use Amsoil for that), but I`d have to argue that the outside is just as important. One major advantage to keeping the exterior of your engine clean is the ability to spot an oil leak. Case in point, when I bought my car the inspecting dealer said the valve covers were leaking, they were wrong. The oil cap and breather hoses made it look like the valve covers were leaking. I saved some serious $$$ because the engine was cleaned and leaks were sourced. Other reason to clean the engine.........I love the look on peoples faces when I pop the hood!:D

imported_Luster
04-23-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Acura_RL

What`s your opinion of an all-purpose cleaner like Simple Green?



I use Simple Green all the time, in the engine bay. Once the engine bay is clean, I use Meg`s QD. Simple Green works great on rough cast aluminum. Spray, let soak, and rinse.



I cut Simple Green 50/50 with water. It`s very concentrated.



It`s also great on tires and rubber floor mats.



For Rubber hoses, I use Grape Tire Dressing......(satin finish)...



Plastics.......Meg`s Trim Detailer (consumer line)...



After the engine bay is super clean, I give the painted surfaces a nice coat of Z1/Z2! Makes it easier to clean next time!



Also on the bottom side of the hood.....Z1/Z2.



I have a couple of long-brissel detailing brushes that I use under the hood also........areas around strut towers, hinges, hood seams, around headlights, etc.

chris0626
04-23-2003, 11:23 AM
Tip I learned after a long weekend with my head and hands in the engine bay: Do be sure that all six of the spark plug wires are reconnected to the distributor cap. :wall

Jngrbrdman
04-23-2003, 12:50 PM
MBZ 500E: I bought a big bottle of it and it came with a spray bottle that had the dilution ratios on it. The degreaser was a 1:1 ratio if I`m not mistaken. I know it says its safe to use it at full strength if the situation calls for it.



It cuts through valve cover grime pretty well I`d say. I just use my degreaser and lots of towels and brushes. Works like a charm.



http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/532before.jpg



http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/532after.jpg

MBZ 500E
04-23-2003, 01:11 PM
Jngrbrdman



Holy :eek: :scared :eek: , when I saw that first picture of the engine I thought the valve covers were painted black........then I saw your second picture and nearly fell out of my chair!!:bow :bow



I`m going to give the Simple Green a try since I happen to have some, but if that doesn`t cut it I`ll order a bottle of the Advanage.



Luster,



Great idea to use the Zaino on the painted surfaces, I`m glad I kept my bottles rather than giving them away, seems I find new uses for it every day.



Keep the tips coming....learned alot so far.:xyxthumbs

chris0626
04-23-2003, 01:17 PM
Jngr, that`s one of the most awesome transformations I`ve seen! :bow



You mention lots of towels. I`ve finally converted to shop rags for the dirty stages of engine cleaning. Got tired of washing the grimy cotton towels.