Need a new formula for a black bmw

[Blake325ic]

I`m relatively new to detailing and obsessed with the appearance of my car. I had previously used Imperial Hand Glaze and Blitz wax and liked the results, but I am now looking for something that will produce a deeper/wetter look. I live in Kansas City and wax the car once a month in warmer weather and whenever the opportunity comes up during the winter. I was considering the Zaino lineup but would like appreciate any opinions.



Thanks in advance!

[imported_Tony]

Review the photos in the members gallery. There are several photos of BMW. Just a start.

[F1Crazy]

For a black car my vote goes to P21S paint cleanser and wax combo. Here are the pics of Ripsnort`s 330Ci with it:



http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/BMW/BMWP21Sbest2.jpg



http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/BMW/BMWp21SBest.jpg



Keep in mind tough that 90% of the results is in paint preparation not the product used.

[F1Crazy]

And here are pics of Deckard`s 323Ci with Zaino on it:





http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/66406020012-med.jpg



Looking great as well!

[imported_jgv]

Originally posted by F1Crazy



Keep in mind tough that 90% of the results is in paint preparation not the product used.



As you say that, and I completly agree with you, I know that the max prep one could do would start somewhere on the wet sanding, though it`s not usual.



So it leave us a, let`s say 4 stage prep. Clay, fine cut, med polish, fine polish. This is what`s the prep, isn`t it? if then you glaze it or go to a wax or sealent or both it`s another part isn`t it?



Or, is it the prep considered just clay, polish, and seal or wax?

[F1Crazy]

Everything you do prior to waxing/sealing is preparation in my book, so glazing is a prep stage.

[AMP01]

Blake325ic,



I really like Souveran wax and or P21S wax. Souveran really seems to darken the paint and leaves a wet, liquidy look.



If you are worried about protection in the winter, use a sealant, (AIO, Platinum Ultymate Paint Protection, Blackfire or Poorboy`s new upcoming sealant EX), first and then top with Souveran for a wetter look and P21S for a more reflective look. From what I hear, Poorboy`s EX looks pretty wet and deep by it self. :xyxthumbs



Here is a pic of my 7 with alternating layers of P21S and Souveran. Souveran is on top in this pic.



http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/2805souveran_over_p21s_under_trees.jpg



Cheers,

My Black 7 Series (http://www.cardomain.com/id/amp99)

[Nick T.]

I recently did some comparison testing of Blackfire2, Zaino, Platinum, and Klasse, both on my well prepped Jet Black BMW with 30+ coats of Zaino, and on another car with 27 y.o. neglected orange paint.



BF2 gives a “sparkle� equal to Zaino and Platinum, but has more depth and wet look. It can be successfully topped with carnauba. One drawback is that it leaves a little oily film on the surface. If this film is washed off then it looses most of the depth and wet look. If topped with carnauba it’s great!



Platinum UPP has great sparkle and lacks the depth and wet look of BF2, but has some depth and wet look. Very slight oily residue visible on the black paint, not visible on the orange paint - - maybe because of the color, maybe because the old non-clearcoated paint absorbed the oils. Also tops well with carnauba.



Zaino has sparkle equal to or maybe very slightly better than BF2 or PUPP, but lacks depth and wet look. Is very difficult to top with carnauba without getting smudges!



Both BF2 and PUPP gain a lot of depth and wet look when topped with Souverän!



Klasse HGSG is behind all the others in sparkle, and behind BF2 and PUPP in wet look and depth. Much harder to buff off than the others.



As with all of my posts, YMMV!

[imported_Greg]

What up Blake!! It`s good to see a fellow Kansas City Black BMW Autopia member!! Right now I am using 3M SMR for dark cars, Pinnacle Paintwork cleaninsing lotion, Klasse AIO, Klasse SG, then Souveran then P21S. I`ve got a big ClearKote order coming, so I will have some stuff to try.



BTW: If you`re interested, we are having a meet this Saturday (8th) at 1:00 at Hooters on Metcalf. Love to see you out there. I`ve got a black 325 w/ quite a few mods, if you decide to come, let me know.

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87513

[procareman50]

Hey AMP99:



Dang It!! Stop making us all drool with those awesome pics!!:p



Welcome Blake to the best site in the world:xyxthumbs

[Brad B]

AMP99...

Love the pic...you obviously have the perfect wax combo for those tough Santa Barbara winters!:rolleyes:

[Brodydog]

Just posted a similar response: Here`s what I use on my black BMW (http://members.roadfly.com/lowtech/Instructions.pdf)



Klase AIO + SGx3 + Souveran...

[Hawkeye_TDI]

Originally posted by bmw530i2003

Hey AMP99:



Dang It!! Stop making us all drool with those awesome pics!!:p









LOLOLOL

Every time I see that car I get a woodie.......

[Brodydog]

AMP99 is in some ways too modest. He once credited his photography skills...No way! It is just expert detailing work!:xyxthumbs

[Blake325ic]

Originally posted by Greg

What up Blake!! It`s good to see a fellow Kansas City Black BMW Autopia member!! Right now I am using 3M SMR for dark cars, Pinnacle Paintwork cleaninsing lotion, Klasse AIO, Klasse SG, then Souveran then P21S. I`ve got a big ClearKote order coming, so I will have some stuff to try.



BTW: If you`re interested, we are having a meet this Saturday (8th) at 1:00 at Hooters on Metcalf. Love to see you out there. I`ve got a black 325 w/ quite a few mods, if you decide to come, let me know.

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87513



Hey Greg!

I didn`t check back on the forum until 5:30 or I would of stopped by hooters this afternoon. I was hoping to spend the day giving the car a nice wash and wax as it was forcasted to be as high as 65 earlier this week. I guess now I have some more time to research a few products.



I am by no means experienced at all with detailing and just now stepping in to the shallow waters so I think I may purchase the P21S paint cleanser and wax combo.



I also need to purchase some micro fiber towels for the process and was wondering who had the best deal on the net (or in town)?



Thanks again for the help!



-- On second thought, what would be recommended in conjuction with the IHG and Blitz wax to remove light scratches?