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BTW574
02-21-2003, 12:17 AM
I did a search and could not find any thing on this. I use Black Fire and like the shine alot but I want better. It looks good but just does not have the liquid look that I am looking for.
I would like to use the Black Fire for the sealer and maintain the look with Souveran.
What type of results will this give me before I shell out over $60 for the wax.
AMP01
02-21-2003, 01:02 AM
BTW574,
If you have a darker colored car or want to achieve more wetness I would suggest Souveran as a topper to blackfire. I Have a jet black BMW and usually use AIO or Platinum Sealant as a base and then a wax topper. When I received my Souveran, I had AIO with a P21S topper. The AIO was on my car about 7 or 8 months so it probably was not in full force so to speak.
My car was clean so I just QD`d and applied a couple coats of Souveran. Even after just one coat, my paint seemed so wet, deep and liquidy. Like black ink. Here is a pic of my car with one coat of Souveran.
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/2805first_pic_with_souveran-med.jpg
After 2 coats of Souveran
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/2805souveran_on_black_under_lights-med.jpg
Cheers,
My Black 7 Series (http://www.cardomain.com/id/amp99)
Hawkeye_TDI
02-21-2003, 08:04 AM
I had similar results topping zaino with PS as did AMP99. My car is carbon black metalic (deep deep metalic blue, almost black).
I took it out last weekend before the storm. First time out this winter. Today it looks like the weahter will allow a wash, CULE!
Good luck
B
Jngrbrdman
02-21-2003, 08:15 AM
I used Souveran to top Blackfire on my wife`s car. Its a sort of beige colored Accord. I think it looks awesome. Blackfire alone looks really great and it only gets better when topped with a carnauba. You can`t go wrong with Souveran. The way it looks is really rivaled by very very very few. In the appearance area it has always ranked in the top 3 on my list.
imported_memnuts
02-21-2003, 10:25 AM
I have topped BF II with Souveran. Looks great, but.... My best results were achieved with the combination Of BF II x3, Souveran x 2 topped with P21S x 2. Each layer was 24 hrs apart on a garaged car with QuikShine QD`ing between coats.
AMP01
02-21-2003, 11:55 AM
blkZ28Conv,
That is a great idea! :xyxthumbs I will have to try topping the Souveran with some P21S. It sounds like the best of both worlds.
Cheers,
My Black 7 Series (http://www.cardomain.com/id/amp99)
imported_memnuts
02-21-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by AMP99
blkZ28Conv,
That is a great idea! :xyxthumbs I will have to try topping the Souveran with some P21S. It sounds like the best of both worlds.
Cheers,
My Black 7 Series (http://www.cardomain.com/id/amp99)
it would be illegal to drive. Toooo shiny and reflective.;)
I really think you will like the combination. Souveran depth and wetness with the P21S/S100 gloss, reflectivity, decreased dust attraction and slightly longer, unneeded by most of us, protection.:wavey