imported_Intel486
06-05-2002, 09:36 PM
I posted all this on F-150online. I`m simply cuttin` and pastin here for u all to enjoy and comment on, etc. this is like four posts combine so they might skip around a little... You`ll get the idea of things though.
I was at pepboys earlier today trying to get a soft brush to do a convertible top with. Don`t know what happened to mine. Grrr
Well, anyways, I saw the Liquid Glass that people suggested on this board before. It comes in a 16oz can and cost $17.99!!!!!
Well, I bought it anyways so I could compare it to Klasse and zaino. I just got to do some research on the product and I`m not liking what I hear. Some guy said he used it on his car regularly and it stripped the clearcoat! Another guy saies is offers no durability and will only last about two weeks. He saies the people who use it often have a great shine because every time they use Liquid Glass it is stipping off some paint and exposing new paint!
Now this is what really strikes me as odd!
The front of the bottle says "Clear Coat Safe Contains NO Abrasives" But when I flip to the side it says "Mild Inert Cleaning Agent" Now, to me that means it has an abrasive in it. I also saw a picture of an old bottle where it use to say "Low-Micro Abrasives" inplace of "Mild Inert Cleaning Agent." Hmmm makes you wonder!
On the back it also saies to apply it with a coarse cotton cloth. Ok that is just a weird suggetion.
It also saies some color may appear on your cloth. Now... Wouldn`t that mean it has abrasives in it removing paint? I guess that Coarse Cotton cloth you are using to apply it could also be what is removing paint
I think I might have a test to see if it has abrasives. Be back in a few.
Ok first test shows Liquid Glass to have abrasive or swirl hiding properties.
I wetsanded some Plexiglas (Bottle of Liquid Glass saies it works on plexiglas) with 2000 grit sandpaper.
I then applied three waxes to seperate areas and then left part without anything on it.
I applied Eagle One Pure Carnauba wax which contains no cleaners or abrasives to one section. The next section I applied Meguiar`s #6 Cleaner wax. Then the next I applied Liquid Glass. I let them haze and buffed them off.
Eagle One Pure Carnauba made no difference in look. It just made the surface over the sandpaper marks really slick like there were no sandpaper marks there.
Meguiar`s #6 reduced the sandpaper marks and made the surface slick also.
Liquid Glass also reduced the swirls and made the surface slick.
I`m gonna do another test on some paint in a little bit.
Ok the next test is underway.
I have a panel that is painted blue and I sanded it down with 2000 grit sandpaper. I boxed off four little boxes in the middle and left the edges exposed all around to show what it looked like when it was sanded. Also, the areas under the masking tape will stay sanded. So, in the end when I take the masking tape off we will have areas to compare it to.
On the top left corner I`m applying ProWax`s Satin Creme. A product which should not contain any abrasives but we`ll find out. This is being applied with a foam pad
On the top right I`m going to do one coat of Klasse All-In-One and then start putting coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze on. The Klasse All-In-One should be the only one which has abrasives. Klasse Sealant Glaze should just be a protective coating. Both products being applied with suggested Microfiber applicators.
In the botton left I have Meguiar`s #6 Cleaner Wax. A wax which has a polish in it. I expect it will probably remove a lot of the sandpaper marks. Product being applied by Foam pad
And finally in the bottom right I have Liquid Glass. Product being applied by the suggested cotton towel. (Not a coarse one of course. I don`t have any coarse towels.)
All products will be buffed off with microfiber towels. If product doesn`t come off easy some water will be misted ont he surface.
Ok, I`ve got one coat of each product on and am about to put the first coat of Klasse SG on. I have a picture I`ll post in a bit of the panel before any products were applied.
OK here is picture of panel before any products were applied. This is in a dark room with an angled light. Not a bright one though. Future pictures I hope to have pulled my halogens out for but you can still see the areas have been sanded.
4 blocks have been divided but no products applied!
http://www.f150online.com/galleries/images/725-915-20232.jpg
I was at pepboys earlier today trying to get a soft brush to do a convertible top with. Don`t know what happened to mine. Grrr
Well, anyways, I saw the Liquid Glass that people suggested on this board before. It comes in a 16oz can and cost $17.99!!!!!
Well, I bought it anyways so I could compare it to Klasse and zaino. I just got to do some research on the product and I`m not liking what I hear. Some guy said he used it on his car regularly and it stripped the clearcoat! Another guy saies is offers no durability and will only last about two weeks. He saies the people who use it often have a great shine because every time they use Liquid Glass it is stipping off some paint and exposing new paint!
Now this is what really strikes me as odd!
The front of the bottle says "Clear Coat Safe Contains NO Abrasives" But when I flip to the side it says "Mild Inert Cleaning Agent" Now, to me that means it has an abrasive in it. I also saw a picture of an old bottle where it use to say "Low-Micro Abrasives" inplace of "Mild Inert Cleaning Agent." Hmmm makes you wonder!
On the back it also saies to apply it with a coarse cotton cloth. Ok that is just a weird suggetion.
It also saies some color may appear on your cloth. Now... Wouldn`t that mean it has abrasives in it removing paint? I guess that Coarse Cotton cloth you are using to apply it could also be what is removing paint
I think I might have a test to see if it has abrasives. Be back in a few.
Ok first test shows Liquid Glass to have abrasive or swirl hiding properties.
I wetsanded some Plexiglas (Bottle of Liquid Glass saies it works on plexiglas) with 2000 grit sandpaper.
I then applied three waxes to seperate areas and then left part without anything on it.
I applied Eagle One Pure Carnauba wax which contains no cleaners or abrasives to one section. The next section I applied Meguiar`s #6 Cleaner wax. Then the next I applied Liquid Glass. I let them haze and buffed them off.
Eagle One Pure Carnauba made no difference in look. It just made the surface over the sandpaper marks really slick like there were no sandpaper marks there.
Meguiar`s #6 reduced the sandpaper marks and made the surface slick also.
Liquid Glass also reduced the swirls and made the surface slick.
I`m gonna do another test on some paint in a little bit.
Ok the next test is underway.
I have a panel that is painted blue and I sanded it down with 2000 grit sandpaper. I boxed off four little boxes in the middle and left the edges exposed all around to show what it looked like when it was sanded. Also, the areas under the masking tape will stay sanded. So, in the end when I take the masking tape off we will have areas to compare it to.
On the top left corner I`m applying ProWax`s Satin Creme. A product which should not contain any abrasives but we`ll find out. This is being applied with a foam pad
On the top right I`m going to do one coat of Klasse All-In-One and then start putting coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze on. The Klasse All-In-One should be the only one which has abrasives. Klasse Sealant Glaze should just be a protective coating. Both products being applied with suggested Microfiber applicators.
In the botton left I have Meguiar`s #6 Cleaner Wax. A wax which has a polish in it. I expect it will probably remove a lot of the sandpaper marks. Product being applied by Foam pad
And finally in the bottom right I have Liquid Glass. Product being applied by the suggested cotton towel. (Not a coarse one of course. I don`t have any coarse towels.)
All products will be buffed off with microfiber towels. If product doesn`t come off easy some water will be misted ont he surface.
Ok, I`ve got one coat of each product on and am about to put the first coat of Klasse SG on. I have a picture I`ll post in a bit of the panel before any products were applied.
OK here is picture of panel before any products were applied. This is in a dark room with an angled light. Not a bright one though. Future pictures I hope to have pulled my halogens out for but you can still see the areas have been sanded.
4 blocks have been divided but no products applied!
http://www.f150online.com/galleries/images/725-915-20232.jpg