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jleev
03-29-2002, 02:26 PM
Preparing to 3M SMR w/PC black `97 993 this week end and would appreciate your comments on the following.



Did you remove and replace the rear quarter panel stone chip protectors prior to your first major detail?

How do you handle areas of paint in and around emblims and badges and exterior rubber/plastic parts?





Thank you for your imput.

Chalky
03-29-2002, 02:40 PM
I have a Black 911 (garage queen) but it doesn`t have factory stone guards. I use the MagBra stone guards. Unless I`m mistaken, the stone guards on the 993 were factory and if you remove them (I hear it`s a bear) you`ll never get them back on correctly. I`d leave them be.



I would also do the areas around the emblems by hand. Maybe a quick pass over with the PC (low speed) and see how it works out. I`ve never used a PC buffer so this isn`t from experience.



Please post how things turn out. I currently use Zaino on my Porsche but there are a few swirls that the Z5 just can`t seem to hide. I`ve been tempted to try and use a PC buffer on the car, but frankly, I haven`t the cahoonas.



What do you plan on using for the `final finish`? Good luck and please let me know how things turn out.

jleev
03-29-2002, 02:49 PM
dbackfan
Thank you for your reply.
I have been slaving with Zaino for the past few months but unsatisfied with the still obvious swirl marks after 7-8 layers of Z5 + Z2 meticulously applied by hand.
Shall dawn and clay to start from scratch with the PC and SMR and let you know how it turns out. As far as the stone chip covers I am undecided as to what to do.

If you don’t frequent the following site already check it out. Enormous knowledge base for our vehicles.

http://forums.rennlist.com (`http://forums.rennlist.com`)


Regards,

Jleev

Brad B
03-29-2002, 10:28 PM
If the covers themselves are in rough shape they are easy to remove and replace with new. But, as mentioned, don`t try to put the old ones back on. It is one way to really give the car a fresh look for little cost.



I would work on getting out the swirls before investing any more time in Zaino coats. Nothing spoils the finish looks quicker and it makes no sense to simply "lock" them in with a sealant. If the Z5 doesn`t hide them in 2-3 coats it won`t hide them at all.



Also, SMR (I assume you mean 3M) is pretty mild stuff. If you don`t get results step up to Finesse It, then finish with SMR or Pinnacle Paint Cleanser.

dengelson
03-30-2002, 10:50 PM
Hi Jordan I sent you a PM. Hope the project is going great! Dangit, here where I live the pollen is so thick right now a car will be dusted green within a 1/2 hour of being parked outside uggghhh.. :sosad Such is the case with us black car owners that`s why we need to stick together! :xyxthumbs

imported_doug
03-31-2002, 11:50 PM
Black Porsche?

I have only this to say:

http://hobbystage.net/porsche/greg/0978158758-000149.jpg

Bobby G
04-01-2002, 12:11 AM
jleev,



The stone guards on a 993 are not all that easy to replace. I did it on my 944 Turbo with no problem, but the panel is pretty flat. On the 993, the rear fender has a pretty good curve to it, making it more difficult to get them on straight and without bubbles. You`ll need a really good squeegie (sp?).



To remove the old film, use a hair dryer to get them warm and soft, them peel them off. Remove the film glue with denatured alcohol and a cotton towel.



To put the film back on, you`ll need a spray bottle full of water with a few drops of dish wash detergent for lubrication. While the film has water under it you can still move it around. Get it in place, then push the water out with the squeegie... start from the middle and work out. If you trap an air bubble, you`ll have no choice but to pull them off and start over... work quick.



db

admac
04-01-2002, 12:14 AM
<blockquote class=`ipsBlockquote` >

<em class=`bbc`>Originally posted by carguy [/i]
<strong class=`bbc`>Black Porsche?

I have only this to say:

http://hobbystage.net/porsche/greg/0978158758-000149.jpg [/b]</blockquote>
holy cow greg! who took that picture of you wearing a porsche t-shirt? :p

jleev
04-01-2002, 11:13 AM
Thanks Gents.....



Quick thought.

Would it be detrementle to 3M SMR / Zaino etc on the quarter panel before applying the stone chip protector?

Chalky
04-01-2002, 11:23 AM
I have a Porsche belt buckle. Kind of a cloudy day though.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/images/MarkY/self_small.jpg

imported_doug
04-01-2002, 11:33 AM
dbackfan - I love it!!!!!

And since one good reflection deserves another, how about this "triple turbo" reflection:

http://www.heumann.com/images/triple_turbo_640.jpg

Bobby G
04-01-2002, 02:48 PM
You guys and your black 911s... get a grip! :rolleyes:



:xyxthumbs



jleev,



You can 3M SMR the qtr panel, but don`t coat it with Z until you re-apply the guard.



db

69-912
04-01-2002, 02:52 PM
Hmmmmm maybe I should have painted mine Black :P

jleev
04-02-2002, 01:04 AM
Thank you DavidB.

Was hoping to avoid messing up the edges of the stone guard with product post application but it seems unavoidable.







Jleev

admac
04-02-2002, 01:15 AM
<blockquote class=`ipsBlockquote` >

<em class=`bbc`>Originally posted by dbackfan [/i]
<strong class=`bbc`>I have a Porsche belt buckle. Kind of a cloudy day though.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/images/MarkY/self_small.jpg [/b]</blockquote>
um, hate to break it to you dbackfan, that`s not a belt buckle, that`s a porsche codpiece.