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dabone
05-03-2004, 04:38 PM
Ok I detailed a 2002 black Escalade, I washed then polished (Poorboys Pw/c) then used ex and topped that off with s100. I cleaned the carpet vacumed the carpet wiped down the inside with a microfiber towel then used poorboys natural look on the vinyl(sp) and leather . He had spots on his leather seats took care of those spots, cleaned wood trim I polished the chrome door handles on the inside .I then washed the floor mats, polished his 20 inch spinners rims used high endurance gloss on tires and outside trim. I worked on this vehicle from 9:30 am to 1:30 pm. I charged $75.00 was that a good price he says that`s WAY too much. Now he doesn`t want to pay he knew up front what the price would be. Some people say I don`t charge enough any opinons. This isn`t a full time job it`s more of a hobby just to make a few extra $$$. Thanks in advance.

INTENSE
05-03-2004, 04:57 PM
i would have charged more than that . I usually charge 90$ to do a wash /interior vac, windows wipe dash and orbital wax.

FourStarDetail
05-03-2004, 05:12 PM
Sounds kinda low to me... That would have been at least about 100 bucks in my book:cool

Beemerboy
05-03-2004, 05:19 PM
For what you did I would have been higher in the 100 range. That`s only one part, if you quoted this guy and he agreed and now does not want, that bites. Its about business ethics and nothing more even if this is only a part time gig.

I go back to him and say we agreed on a price and know you feel likes its to much. Ask him why he feels that way when he knew up front! Then ask him to pay what ever he think its worth and then say NEVER again will I work on any of your cars.

In the lat 30 plus years that I have been doing this as a part time/full time gig. I have had only opne guy refuse to pay what I said above is what I did

Cheap SOB

eggroll
05-03-2004, 05:20 PM
Seems really low. You should`ve charged $100 for exterior only. Sounds like he doesn`t appreciate your hard work.

dabone
05-03-2004, 05:57 PM
Thanks for the replys it really helped. I showed him this post and replys he paid me the $75.00 even though he still complained. I guess that`s one less customer :( . Thanks again fella`s for the quick reply`s.

Beemerboy
05-03-2004, 06:01 PM
You don`t need customers like that!!

groebuck
05-03-2004, 07:39 PM
dude 75 bucks? I would pay that weekly for the amount of work you do - we have guys come to our work and do 75% less than you do for 125 bucks for cars more for suv`s - 20" spinners? cleaning those alone is worth 75.00. Glad he paid you - leave him be - I am willing to bet he will never find anyone that does as good a job as you or the amount of work for 75bucks..and he will be back, only if he calls back tell him the price went up to 125! ;)..I mean jeeze try and find just manual labor for 18 bucks an hour (about what you made)...

treestand
05-03-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by groebuck
only if he calls back tell him the price went up to 125!

I`m not a pro detailer, but if he wanted me to do a job again, id rase the price as well, but most importantly, I would require that I get paid IN ADVANCE.

Poorboy
05-03-2004, 09:39 PM
Wow ..that guy is cheap...he buys a 50k SUV and then complains to pay $75 to make it look new again:nono ....

like groebuck said, i would have charged $75 just for the spinners...about $250 would have been what I would have charged without the spinners.:eek

It doesn`t matter if you are a pro or not as long as the work is good:bigups ..let him take it to another detailer and then he`ll be back :D

mirrorfinishman
05-03-2004, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by dabone
I worked on this vehicle from 9:30 am to 1:30 pm. I charged $75.00


It sounds like it`s time for you to figure out how much money you need or want to make per hour. For example, since you worked four hours on that vehicle, you were working at an hourly rate of $18.75 per hour.

Even though it `isn`t a full time job`, it is still good to know what your costs of doing business are. After all, you`ve got to supply the detailing products and pay for other associated business expenses. When you add up those costs, you really end up making less than the $18.75 per hour.

Then again, since you really don`t have too many business expenses, why not go for it and try setting your prices more in line with the price of your competition. If you do similar work, you may find that you could actually make $25 or $35 per hour instead.

Just my thoughts...

dabone
05-03-2004, 10:14 PM
I know you guys are right about the price. I will raise the prices more especially on larger vehicles. Most of the vehicles (80%) usually want a full detail. I even won a car (93 mazda 626) using Poorboy`s products by hand, I also have a tu-tone harley truck and have done numerous other types of cars, suv`s and trucks. For some reason this escalade looked better than any vehicle I have ever done. I posted (poorboys forum) last week about a silver honda civic I had detailed, this detail (black escalade) even topped the honda civic. So would $150 and up on larger vehicles such as full size trucks, suv`s and larger cars be a good starting price for a full detail. Thanks for all the advice.

ottoman
05-03-2004, 10:26 PM
Wow, all that for $75. I think you really got ripped off and not to mention the crap you had to go through. I started at $50 for cars and $75 for trucks/suvs when I was in high school. Offered a wash, vacuum, armor all on tires and dash, clean windows with windex, and turtle wax. Used a bath towel to dry the car and old t-shirts to wax. Had plenty of customers back then and none of them complained at that price. Knowing what I know now, I realize I probably did more damage then good those days.
Even the local so-called detail shops charge $150 and up and use cheap products and damage the paint. I just hope that you never have to deal with that person again or anyone else that is so cheap.

Note: Spinners have to be the worst invention ever for detailers. I think the old 7-series BMW wheels are much easier to clean than the spinners and even those are a real PITA.

CharlesW
05-03-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by dabone
I charged $75.00 was that a good price he says that`s WAY too much. Now he doesn`t want to pay he knew up front what the price would be.
To me, this is the key point.:yeah

You quoted the job.
He agreed to the price.
You did the job satisfactorily.
He pays the agreed upon price.
Service performed, agreed upon payment made in full is a business transaction.

Service performed, agreed upon payment not made in full is STEALING.

People who do not pay you what they owe you are not customers, they are thieves. A thief driving a Cadillac is still a thief.

Charles

RJ SD
05-03-2004, 11:11 PM
Since I also am doing work for too little, I can say that $75 for that huge truck is WAY too little. If you feel that your work is worth that much, than keep charging low amounts. However, if you think your time is worth more than that, don`t worry about the people who want a cheap Chevron wax job. There`s bigger fish out there that respect quality work. I`d rather not do anything than work my a$$ off for low wages.