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smont68
03-09-2012, 04:03 PM
hello everyone,
I started detailing cars when i was back in high school but have not done it in a while and want to get back into it. I was just curious of people opinions. I have a 2004 ford explorer black that i just clayed to get all the specs and dirt out of the paint. Do most people prefer to use a coat of paste wax, spray wax, or paint sealants. Please let me know what you think and what the positive and negatives of each consist of. Also what type of each product each of you reccomend

mjlinane
03-09-2012, 04:08 PM
Welcome to AutopiaForums!

A lot of preference comes into play with your question. Longevity and looks are the primary differences. Sealant, paste wax, spray wax - any or all, in that order.

sgvevo9mr
03-09-2012, 04:14 PM
Since your ford is black, I would put on some BFWD. It has great durability, and is really slick.

Old Pirate
03-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Protecting your ride with a high quality car wax or paint sealant to keep the paint looking at its best is the key in it`s life. All carnauba car waxes and paint sealants not only improve the appearance of your ride they protect it from the sun, contamination, and oxidation out there. Remember carnauba waxes deliver a warm wet show car shine and all paint sealants offer maximum longevity and a super sharp shine on the paint.

Todd@RUPES
03-09-2012, 05:25 PM
hello everyone,
I started detailing cars when i was back in high school but have not done it in a while and want to get back into it. I was just curious of people opinions. I have a 2004 ford explorer black that i just clayed to get all the specs and dirt out of the paint. Do most people prefer to use a coat of paste wax, spray wax, or paint sealants. Please let me know what you think and what the positive and negatives of each consist of. Also what type of each product each of you reccomend

While the terms wax, spray wax, or sealant are descriptive, they are also generalizations.

There are many different types/brands of waxes, sealants, etc.

What is likely going to benefit your paint the most, given it`s age, is going to be an all in one product that is going to lightly polish and clean the paint as well as adding protection. After you apply the all in one product, you can top with with a compatible product for more gloss and shine.

I would start with BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-total-polish-seal.html)

And top with BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-crystal-seal-8.html)

You can read more about these products and their application here:
http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/blackfire-product-guide-how/38077-blackfire-total-polish-n-seal-brand-new-product.html
http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/blackfire-product-guide-how/38070-blackfire-crystal-seal-brand-new-product.html

tropicsteve
03-09-2012, 05:45 PM
welcome smont68. you will definitely not regret using the blackfire products. easy to use and a beautiful finish.

davidmelis
03-09-2012, 06:27 PM
Welcome! You will find lots of useful information here. A couple of days of reading and you will be in the know.

Todd`s recommendations are superb. He has a way of evaluating a person and their post in order to give them the best recommendation based on their amount of time, money, and expectations. Follow his recommendations and you will not go wrong!

GREAT that you clayed. Definitely use a product with some cleaner and polish before your final sealant or wax.

Have fun and happy detailing!

Bunky
03-09-2012, 06:36 PM
hello everyone,
I started detailing cars when i was back in high school but have not done it in a while and want to get back into it. I was just curious of people opinions. I have a 2004 ford explorer black that i just clayed to get all the specs and dirt out of the paint. Do most people prefer to use a coat of paste wax, spray wax, or paint sealants. Please let me know what you think and what the positive and negatives of each consist of. Also what type of each product each of you reccomend

I think you need to explain your needs: easy to apply, nice smell, maximum appearance with multiple steps, best look with just one step, something you can apply only every 6 months, etc.

For example, I like sealants and then use a spray topper for maintaining the look if you like the bright shiny look sealants can give.

If you want a deeper wetter glow, then you may prefer carnuabas.

glen e
03-09-2012, 08:14 PM
I use exactly what Todd recommended with the BF poly spray for after wash, It is an incredible look. I`m not a professional and the time spent vs durable gloss produced makes it a perfect choice for me on both my cars, and a few friends too.

smont68
03-12-2012, 04:05 PM
Thanks for all your information def gonna start with BLACKFIRE total polish and seal and see how it looks. THANKS

BobbyG
03-12-2012, 05:22 PM
:welcome: To Autopia Forums!!

Since you`ve been out of school for a while how about a refresher class!! :lol2:

Always stick to the basics. Whether you choose to perform every aspect is entirely up to you.

Basic steps in order are:


Wash
Clay
Paint Correction & Polish
Seal
Wax

Once you`ve finished claying is the idea time to do a little paint correction or at the very least use a quality paint cleaner to remove oxidation, grime or other surface defects.

Car polishing before waxing is the trick behind attaining and maintaining that sought after showroom finish on your car. The preeration prior to applying a sealant and wax is paramount to success.....

Paint Cleaners


Sonus Paintwork Cleanser (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-400.html)
Four Star Ultimate Pre-Wax Cleaner (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/four-star-ultimate-pre-wax-cleanser-16-oz.html)

Sealants


Blackfire Wet Diamond, All Finish Paint Protection (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-paint-protection.html)
Prima Hydro Seal Paint Sealant 16 oz. (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/prima-hydro-seal-paint-sealant-16-oz-.html)
Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ultimate-paint-protection.html)

Waxes


Blackfire Midnight Sun Batch #25 Carnauba Paste (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-midnight-sun-wax.html)
Pinnacle Signature Series Carnauba Wax II (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/pinnacle-signature-series-wax.html)
Migliore Original Blend Wax (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/migliore-original-blend.html)
P21S 100% Carnauba Car Wax (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/p21s-carnauba-wax.html)

Todd@RUPES
03-12-2012, 10:42 PM
Thanks for all your information def gonna start with BLACKFIRE total polish and seal and see how it looks. THANKS

Make sure to keep us updated about your experience and feel free hang out on the forum and learn as much as possible. There is a wealth of information here! :welcome:

07gtcs
03-13-2012, 08:47 AM
While the terms wax, spray wax, or sealant are descriptive, they are also generalizations.

There are many different types/brands of waxes, sealants, etc.

What is likely going to benefit your paint the most, given it`s age, is going to be an all in one product that is going to lightly polish and clean the paint as well as adding protection. After you apply the all in one product, you can top with with a compatible product for more gloss and shine.

I would start with BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-total-polish-seal.html)

And top with BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal (http://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-crystal-seal-8.html)

You can read more about these products and their application here:
http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/blackfire-product-guide-how/38077-blackfire-total-polish-n-seal-brand-new-product.html
http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/blackfire-product-guide-how/38070-blackfire-crystal-seal-brand-new-product.html

Don`t forget the BF All Purpose Paint Protection, BF Midnight sun Carnauba wax, then top with the Poly Sray or the Crysal Seal !!