Gleaming Kleen - Ferrari 360 CS

[wizardofahs]

i`m about to start washing a 95 blue taurus. It got repainted about a year ago so the paint is in good condition. I want to practice my teqnique... so i`m going to try some meguires glaze and IHG. My question is what order should i do them in? Or are they both similar products so i should just go with one over the other. if it makes any difference i`ll be waxing over it with meg #26 Thanks!

[JasonC8301]

I have used both Meguiars #7 and 3M IHG, I prefer the #7, a bit less finiky to work with IMHO. If not done in a specific and efficient manner, the IHG can and will streak/stain due to the oils in it.



They are both similar products.



I would use Meguiars #7 (2 applications) and two light coats of Meguiars #26.



Apply a nickel-quarter dab of #7 onto a applicator pad (MF because it has a little more cut than foam), then rub it into the paint like lotion in your hand. Use a bumer to bumber motion. This will really work out your arms. Keep rubbing it into the paint with medium pressure, then as it hazes a little do a few passes with light pressure. Then wipe off with a MF towel, do not let it dry.



Do this twice, then apply a light coat of #26, let haze/dry for an hour. buff off, then do another light coat. This is to ensure all surfaces are covered.



This combo should produce nice results, just not very long lasting.



Jason

[imported_Eric]

I`ve used both the IHG and #7. To me the IHG is easier to work with. The Meguiars Rep told me one time that the #7 was for lower humidity applications and the #5 for higher humidity. Perhaps it was to humid when I compared them.

[Andre']

Is the paint smooth and free of contamination? You may need to clay the paint to remove the contamination before you polish and wax.

[imported_Intermezzo]

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<em class=`bbc`>Originally posted by Dr. Jones [/i]
<strong class=`bbc`>Or are they both similar products so i should just go with one over the other. if it makes any difference i`ll be waxing over it with meg #26 Thanks! [/b]</blockquote>
Dr. Jones, yes, they are both similar products so you should just go with one or the other. Please let us know how things go! :)

[wizardofahs]

I clayed the whole car before hand.. i have some pics i`ll post later. After claying i tried the IHG... very hard to apply for a newbie.. it went on good but was a pain to get off.. i rubbed and rubbed with my microfiber towel and just couln`t get all the `stains` out. So i tried the #7.... very very easy... not one spec of residue (that i can see in the light i`m using at least) at first i didn`t notice any difference with the IHG... then i started seeing it. The blue car had a candied plasticy look. Anyone who has looked at photo shop tutorials online has to of seen the blue plastic button one... that`s what the fender looked like.. it was amazing. I don`t think the #7 gave as good of a shine... but it was easier to apply for me... so thus looks better. I put on a coat of #26 and was amazed. I didn`t think much of Meguires stuff. From reading the boards here it sounds like klasse and blackfire and souveren and zaino do such a superior job... but this car looks simply breathtaking in person. I do assume that the others are still better.. i just can`t wait till spring break when i can try them out and see for myself. I just applied the 2nd coat of #26 and it`s almost time to take it off.... i can`t beleive how much fun i`m having doing this!

[vettefan67]

Where`s <strong class=`bbc`>FLONI[/b]?

Poor guy`s working too much.


Dr. Jones, thanks for the info on IHG / #7. I have only tried IHG once on a portion of a panel, I guess it just needs practice.

Glad to year you are getting into detailing! Just be careful, it gets to be an obsession! I usually lecture friends before letting them in my car now :).

~Justin

[imported_Intermezzo]

Dr. Jones, I had a problem buffing out IHG too. It would streak all over my black car and making buffing really difficult.



Also, it`s hard to argue that BKZ (Blackfire, Klasse & Zaino) definitively look better than the traditional Megauir`s #7 + Meguiar`s #26 route. That`s a subjective area. Polymers and oil-based waxes will both make a properly prepped car look great, but the main advantage of BKZ is the durability and higher level of protection. Plus it can be layered to get an increasing shine with each coat.



Just letting you know so you don`t have overly high expectations come springtime. :)

[JasonC8301]

But oh my goodness, Blue BMW 528i with Klasse AIO/Souveran, man does that look deep and wet (minus the small number of rock chips on the hood and the swirls, tackle the swirls this spring with the PC.) expect pictures.



Also the 1999 Blue Corolla with around 60K, 3M FI II with PC, Klasse AIO with PC, then 4 coats of SG, then finally Blitz (Souveran did the same as Blitz didn`t see a big difference, looking for durability over feel in carnauba on this car) man o man was the owner happy.



1X Klasse AIO by hand, 1X Souveran by hand

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[Andre&#39;]

That Corolla looks sweet Jason, good job.:up

[imported_Intermezzo]

Jason,



Well, I guess if you combine both, then that is pretty much unbeatable......especially if it`s you at the detailing helm. :)



That has got to be the nicest looking Corolla I`ve ever seen!



Tony

[JasonC8301]

Dr. Jones, Can`t wait to see the pictures.



puterbum - Where is Floni?? Missed the language he types. He better not talk like that in person, well he is from the Bronx.



Yeah, Tony said it, proper prep of a car is the key to success. If you have clayed, #7, and two light coats of #26, throwing in Klasse in the mix will increase the shine, but not by 100%. Don`t expect these products (KBZ) to be perfect, nothing is by far perfect in the detailing world.



Jason

[Jay@G.K]

Rained off today so thought I would spend some time putting this write up together along with catching up on paperwork.

Usual wash and decontamination stages were carried out but didnt photograph these stages.

So starting with the engine bay

The carbon fiber was removed from the engine bay and given a light polish, I then dressed all hoses etc with swissvax Pneu and then polished the exhaust box
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I found the paint on this to very "grabby/sticky" so instead of fighting with it using the rotary I used my DAS-6 PRO Dual Action Polisher. For the compounding stages I used Menz 3.02 on a LC Hydo Cyan pad.

After each hit I made sure I gave the panel a thorough IPA wipe down to ensure I was getting "true correction".

Few "before & after`s" shots before the paint being refined.
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Tighter areas`s such as bumpers and air intakes cut in with 4in pad
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Inside the door jambs were also corrected
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The carbon fiber wing mirrors suffered from some swirling so these were corrected using Menz 203s
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Once all the heavy polishing was complete I then refined the finish with Menz 106FA which added a tremendous amount of gloss and clarity to the paint.
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[Jay@G.K]

Once all of the polishing stages were done the smaller details were attended too such as the removal of polishing dust from every crack and crevice, polish residue removed from around badges and paint protection film, exhaust tips polished and sealed, sealing the wheels and dressing the tyres, protecting the rear diffuser and lastly appying a coat of a Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant to all paintwork.
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Once the exterior was complete I concentrated on the interior - this consisted of first polishing all the carbon fiber and then protecting this with a layer of Swissvax Best of Show. Once this was complete I then gave the interior a good vacuum and then cleaned the alcantera with Raceglaze Alcantera Cleaner
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The following day I applied a coat of Swissvax Divne on top of the Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant that was applied the day before.

And the end result....
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Thanks for taking the time to view the thread.

[bmw5541]

Woha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:drool5::drool5::drool5:
Jay, you are knocking them out lately. That Ferrari came out soooo sweeeeeeeeeet!!! You did a great job at removing the defects and the finish was dripping wet.
Awesome job:thumbup::hurray::thumbup: