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truvette
01-21-2002, 05:32 PM
Does this mitt look like the type that will scratch?

We're Here
01-21-2002, 05:47 PM
Though they`re not held in high regard here, I must say that they`ve worked well for me. They are well made (repeated machine washings haven`t hurt mine a bit) and I`ve never seen evidence on my vehicles that they scratch (or trap stuff that scratches).

DETAILKING
01-21-2002, 07:28 PM
sheep skin or polyester mitts that are scratch city........



Just my opinion.......

db2
01-21-2002, 08:27 PM
that is the soft dc mitt you will be fine i use it on my daily driver but i like the sheepskin one

jr weeks
01-22-2002, 02:34 PM
If you do use one of those, watch out for the elastic arm band. It`s almost impossible for it NOT to touch the paint at some time when washing, and it will in itself scratch or if it has a spec of sand in/on it, the sand has nowhere to go , except your paint. Cheers.

truvette
01-22-2002, 02:55 PM
Seems like this one is split down the middle perhaps. Maybe I`ll just have to buy one and give a review.

laynlow
01-22-2002, 03:16 PM
I don`t like those because after a couple times in the washing machine, the material sort of balls up into dense groups. I think that when that happens, your scratch potential is very high. I like a large sea sponge myself, but have been thinking of trying MF or sheepskin.

Don2000g
01-22-2002, 11:00 PM
I`m not sure I`d be comfortable in the slightest if I had to use that mitt. I would be very careful with it if you do decide to use it. Laters

David Fermani
10-11-2010, 09:46 PM
I was contacted by this Porsche Turbo owner after he brought his vehicle to another S. Florida Detailer that claimed to be the best around. This person was commissioned by a well known local Porsche tuner and was told to do a complete detail. Immediately after picking the vehicle up the owner noticed the car did not look the way he anticipated. Price was not this person?s concern, but yet the ?detailer? assumed that the client didn?t want a proper job. Quite frankly, my client was so disappointed that he didn?t even want this person to touch his car again in fear of his inability to pacify his expectations after making multiple excuses as to why the car came out so poorly. Within a few days after the detail, my client carefully washed his car and couldn?t help noticing that his car?s appearance went drastically downhill. The owner then found me through another detail forum and I immediately made an appointment to inspect the car and coach him on what can be done. Upon seeing the vehicle, I couldn?t help to notice slight buffer trails, RIDS and wash marring all over. It was obvious that this so called ?expert detailer? basically half-arsed buffed the car, filled the defects and slathered some greasy toppings on not only the paint, but the entire interior. We immediately made an appointment for him to drop the car off at my place for a well deserved multi-day rejuvenation.

I sprinkled some water on the paint to check out the beading and couldn?t help noticing a swirly haze all over the paint (red flag):

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1505.jpg


Saturday bright & early I prepped the car. As you can see, the paint was beading quite well. A characteristic that a car getting a detail shouldn?t have.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1512.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1513.jpg


One of the most important things to do before attempting a paint correction is to make sure the paint is as bare as possible. I achieved this by using Optimum Power Clean (3 to 1) and Dawn via HD Grout Sponge.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1510.jpg


Here?s how the water laid after stripping all the polish, glaze and wax from the paint. No surface tension.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1516.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1517.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1518.jpg

In somewhat of surprise, this car was terribly riddled with deep buffer trails that the prior detailer installed. This really portrays the skill (or lack of skill) of this individual. In all actuality, this is quite typical of most ?high end? detailers in S. Florida. Most owners are tricked into thinking that what they are getting is an acceptable result. Again, this car was just freshly detailed.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1536.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1534.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1528.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1529.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1539.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1524.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1531.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1530.jpg


Here?s where the detailer attempted to polish out a scratch only leaving deep clearcoat hazing (minor burning).

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1550.jpg


50/50 shots after M105 via DA using the infamous Kevin Brown Method (KBM) and 2 alcohol wipe downs. The paint ultimately was finished with Menzerna 85RD via 5.5 white LC flat foam. Protection was copious amounts of Z2/Z5/Z8.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1551.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1556.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1552.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1555.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1557.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1559.jpg


Deep rocker panel marring from conveyor car washes required sanding. I used grits ranging from 1500 to 4000.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1548.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1566.jpg
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1561.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1567.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1571.jpg

Another thing that stood out like a sore thumb was the interior. The hack detailer didn?t really clean anything (even though it was soiled), but applied a greasy slurry of dressing all over everything. I?m a firm believer that glossy leather is unhealthy leather. Shiny interior surfaces are usually attributed to not only accumulated dirt, but the use of incorrect conditioners which accelerates and recaptures soiling. The complete interior was scrubbed with a toothbrush & Leather Masters Strong cleaner. Then preservation was achieved with LM Protection Cream. Here?s some 50/50?s:

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1586.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1580.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1579.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1585.jpg

Afters (Interior):

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1593.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1591.jpg

David Fermani
10-11-2010, 09:48 PM
Unfortunately the day the car was completed (Sunday) it was pretty cloudy. I tried snapping as many full sun shots peeking out of the clouds as possible.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1634.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1635.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1633.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1605.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1637.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1625.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1628.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1644.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1646.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1640.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1639.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1674.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1629.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1617.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1618.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1631.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1623.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1680.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1678.jpg

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/PolyProDetail/Brown%20Porsche%20Turbo/DSC_1657.jpg

Jeff U
10-11-2010, 09:55 PM
Great, fabulous job !!!

imported_gewb
10-11-2010, 10:02 PM
Dang, that was hammered but it turned out GREAT.

Really like the transformation of the interior - amazing!

Regards,
GEWB

grungy
10-11-2010, 10:14 PM
That is the signature fanatic Fermani job there! :wizard:

imported_RaskyR1
10-11-2010, 10:37 PM
Nice save David! ;)

Greg Nichols
10-11-2010, 11:20 PM
That thing was beat up! Your new client should take these photos back to the previous detailer and ask for a refund, if nothing more than to show that people notice crap jobs and won`t have it!!!

Again great save!

Cheers,
GREG