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2drtahoez71
04-10-2004, 05:36 PM
Heres what my next order is looking like, as of today:

Products im still up in the air about ordering:
1. Clay: Claymagic, Wolfgangs poly clay, or Adam`s Polish clay
2. Abrasive SMR/cleaner: DACP or SSR2.5
Can you guys help me decide?

Products ive definatly decided on ordering:
PC (lost on which backing plate and pads to order:()
PB SSR2
Wolfgangs PWPE (polish)
Wolfgangs DGPS (sealant)
Vanilla Moose
4* leater cleaner
4* leather conditioner
PB S&W
PB NL
PB TR
Blackagain TR
Sprayaway Instant Shine
Engine Kote

Things I alreay have and have used
Ardex car shampoo
Sonax car shampoo
PB SSR1
AIO
UPP
s100
All of Lexol`s interior products (hate them)
Wheel Wax extreme tire shine
4* Bazooka tire gloss
4* spray way plus
Plenty of MF`s and applicators

Will all my bases be covered after this order....is there anything else I should think about? Would anybody replace anything on my next order with another product?

ACE
04-10-2004, 07:58 PM
Not enough STUFF! :( Those little pvc sponges Poorboys sells are superb for applying sealants thin, thin, thin. Get the Megs 5" backing pad and use the Megs pads for starting out. I think flat pads are easier to deal with when you`re starting out. Also, don`t forget to get the soft pad to apply sealants with the PC. It is a quantum leap forward in getting that sealant on super-thin and down into every pore of the paint. I used one with UPP today and it killed hand-application in terms of streaking and evenness.

Boss_429
04-10-2004, 08:10 PM
If you can wait to get the SSR2.5........... I would. From everything I`ve heard, it does everthing DACP does............. but a lot easier!

As for the clay, they are all pretty good. I just used the new Meguiar`s Quick Clay today, and even that seemed pretty decent.

I agree with ACE.......... the 5" backing plate, and the Meguiar`s pads would be a fine start!

2drtahoez71
04-10-2004, 08:11 PM
so get the 5" backing plate and 6" pads?

The whole backing plate situation is going to be temporary, as i plan on stocking up on the new edge pads that dont require a backing plate as soon as they come out.

I planned on applying sealants by hand even after i got my PC, but if PC helps with that too, why not use it for sealants too.

Boss_429
04-10-2004, 08:13 PM
Yep.......... the 5" backing plate, and the Meguiar`s 6 1/2" pads.

Some people are getting fine results both applying, and removing sealants with the PC.

BaDm0theR
04-10-2004, 09:44 PM
I have used claymagic and like it very much. However FourStar won my heart over after i detailed a 330ci...its fantastic, soft and very high quality. FourStar claylube is the best route IMO also!


:D

groebuck
04-10-2004, 09:45 PM
I just ordered the megs kit off PAC - I think my PC has a 6" and never had an issue:) - on the 4 Star Leather Cleaner and Conditioner twins - they are AWESOME!

Nickc0844
04-10-2004, 11:27 PM
Adam`s Claybar.....Awesome stuff (as you PM me about it) ;)

Poorboy`s SSR2.5, and ditch the SSR2---Trust me, it`s getting better and better everytime I use it over DACP!

....and the rest of my PM :lolol

2drtahoez71
04-11-2004, 10:34 AM
So I should go with SSR2.5 instead of DACP, and ditch the SSR2?

So on a severly swirled vehicle I would do SSR2.5 with an appropriate pad, then to SSR1, then to AIO or WG Prewax polish enhancer, Vanilla Moose (or whatever polish I feel like using/would be appropriate).

keeotee
04-11-2004, 11:07 AM
I just got the 7424 and and the 5` backing plate/red, yellow and beige pad kit from PAC. It was the Meg`s kit.

I`ve got PB`s SSR1, SSR2 but haven`t had a chance to use them yet really. I`ve used PB`s TR and love it. I really like the WG`s too. Of course PB`s S&W by all means. I haven`t had a chance yet to use 4*`s leather cleaner and conditioner, but I have them.

Nickc0844
04-11-2004, 12:11 PM
2dr, I would go from your initial polish 2.5 to your final polish WGPE, then SSR1 (essentially a glaze step without oils and fillers) then a sealant. No experience with the Moose on my part, but I guess you could substitute that in for SSR1 from what I hear.

2drtahoez71
04-11-2004, 12:21 PM
nick...ill have to experiment with the WGPE --> SSR1 and vise versa.

My main concern though is whether or not I should exclude SSR2 from my order.

I guess ill go with SR2.5 over DACP seeing as it does the same thing, only easier.

Nickc0844
04-11-2004, 12:40 PM
I guess ill go with SR2.5 over DACP seeing as it does the same thing, only easier.

....and better!

awd330
04-11-2004, 02:54 PM
My 2 cents -

I would definitely go with SSR2.5 rather than DACP. The only question is whether or not SSR2.5 will be available in a timeframe which suits your needs. I would not consider it to be a replacement for SSR2. SSR2 will handle less severe surface marring than SSR2.5, and the general adage is to always go with a less abrasive product when possible. I intend to keep both products in my aresenal.

It`s possible to go from SSR2.5 straight to Vanilla Moose. I`ve tried this, and it`s fine as long as you work the SSR2.5 until it`s completely broken down. SSR2.5 is much easier to breakdown than DACP, and it does not leave behind as much surface marring.

Regarding the PC backing plate and pad combo, I`m going to go against the grain and recommend a 6" backing plate and 7.5" pads ("Advanced" Lake Country pads, now available through PAC).

2drtahoez71
04-11-2004, 04:40 PM
Hmm....i guess it wouldnt hurt to have SSR2 in my lineup until SSR2.5 comes out. But im definatly going with the 2.5 over DACP.

As for the 5" vs 6" backing plate issue....well have to see.

And btw...I was over at autopia and saw they have a flexible backing plate, does PAC have a flexible one?
Thanks for the input guys, and if anybody else wants to add theirs, please do.