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imported_SpoiledMan
12-08-2001, 06:15 AM
Which product is better on a white vehicle.... zaino or klasse for shine.I have used both products on black and could not tell any real difference. Finally I have purchased a new white truck, which I know will be easier to keep clean. I was just wondering if any one out there has tried both products on white and which one they preferred. Also has anyone had a problem with getting either product off vinyl if you should accidently get some on it.

Thanks for any advice on this .... DB

nerdhunters
12-08-2001, 10:32 AM
I use Klasse, but it`s hard to go wrong with either product. The Klasse looks great on white and silver. To keep detailing products from sticking to the plastic bits on my cars, I use 303 on the plastic first, that seems to make it easy to wipe off polishes and waxes.

Koyaanisqatsi
12-08-2001, 10:40 AM
I agree with James A. Either will work nicely. The klasse in my opinion has a more reflective shine than zaino and will look a little better on white.IMHO But like I said either will look great. To keep wax off trim I use masking tape. Only takes a few minutes and is cheap.

muttgrunt
12-08-2001, 01:27 PM
My garage queen is a white Ford Bronco and although I have never used Zaino or Klasse on it, I do use Pinnacle Paste Glaz and or Blitz and lemme tell ya....it absolutely dazzles....especially with the PPG. It literally sparkles. Of course a lot has to do with the prepping but since your vehicle is new, that is not an issue. I also use Lexol Vinylex on the tires. *IMO*, a white or light colored car looks very sharp with a "moderately" glossy tire dressing where a darker colored vehicle looks sharp with a satin or low gloss dressing. Vinylex, to me is somehere between satin and glossy. Its not real glossy yet a lil more gloss/shine than a satin. My .02



Good luck with the new ride!



TBone :)

neoprufrok
12-08-2001, 03:19 PM
As the OG members of this board know, I tend to be in the Klasse camp. But there are more issues to consider when choosing a wax.



In particular, I break a shine basically down into reflectivity and depth. Metallic colored cars tend to have the reflectivity inherent in the paint, and thus using a wax with more depth (Klasse I feel has more depth) would be more appropriate.



Non metallic colored paints benefit heavily from reflective waxes like Zaino. It lends a little pizzaz to an otherwise deep, but less reflective paint.



So if I were to own a white car, I`d use Zaino.



Since I now am the owner of two silver and one black, I use Klasse on all three (being that they are all metallic paints).

DETAILKING
12-08-2001, 03:54 PM
This is 2 coats of Z2 on my DAD`s camaro.......

<img src=http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1575126&a=12035449&p=57189780>

Here is another

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1575126&a=12035449&p=56683632 (`http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1575126&a=12035449&p=56683632`)

miguelgf
12-08-2001, 04:15 PM
Here`s a couple shots of my Klasse`d white ML320:



http://picturemanager.mbnz.org/uploads/pics/carroofjpg.jpg



(That`s a dark garage - otherwise - I hear people say that Klasse makes the car darker - I didn`t notice any difference between a non-Klasse`d panel and a Klasse`d panel)



and



http://picturemanager.mbnz.org/uploads/pics/carhoodjpg.jpg



Full body shot:



<img src="http://picturemanager.mbnz.org/uploads/pics/carsidejpg.jpg"



At first - I was disappointed that Blackfire came out two days after I bought Klasse (when the truck was brand spankin` new, I rushed to get my order in, because it came two weeks early). But the results I got from Klasse impressed me a great deal - and I haven`t even applied a carnuba topper.

Don2000g
12-08-2001, 05:29 PM
Awesome pics John. You won`t believe how much better your finish can still get with some Pinnacle Paste Glaze on top. Believe it buddy!

miguelgf
12-08-2001, 07:23 PM
Thanks, Don - actually - I want to throw some carnuba on it. And since I was looking to place an order with CMA, maybe I`ll just throw in a can of Pinnacle for the heck of it :)



What`s it`s durability like? I`ve got some Meguiar`s #26 lying around - and one thing I like about that, it`s incredibly durable.



I just hate to throw wax on top because of the black rubber trim all over the truck. As careful as I can be, I`m sure I`ll get some on the trim. With Klasse, I don`t have to worry - I can be my slobbery old self.

imported_SpoiledMan
12-08-2001, 07:47 PM
I would like to thank everyone for their input and advice. Thanks a lot...DBY

Koyaanisqatsi
12-08-2001, 11:55 PM
John you think the #26 is incredibly durable? You ought to try blitz then. It has to last at least twice as long as #26.

Don2000g
12-09-2001, 01:56 AM
John, Pinnacle Paste Glaze is one of the very best carnaubas out there. You should also know that it is one of the few carnaubas that doesn`t stain any trim white. Many others here will attest to that. Also, Koyaanisqatsi is correct. Blitz is much more durable than the #26. It, too, is one of my favorite carnaubas as it gives awesome depth and the best durability of any carnauba that I`ve tried. Laters

imported_nihoole
12-09-2001, 08:46 AM
My wife`s Xterra is white and I use Zaino on it with excellent results.I have 1xZ1 and 1xZ2 and it makes her car look better than most new white cars.As others have said you can`t go wrong with Klasse or Z.:up

miguelgf
12-09-2001, 09:47 AM
Don-



If it doesn`t get white crap on black trim - I`m SOLD. Well - I was gonna place that CMA order anyhow, might as well throw some Pinnacle in there.



Actually - durability only concerns me for the upcoming 4 months. I don`t mind washing and waxing the other times, but working in the winter around here (NYC) ain`t for me.

dengelson
12-09-2001, 10:43 PM
A PICTURE (`http://www.autopia-forums.com/ForumIndex.htm`) is worth a thousand words. I`m very pleased with Klasse on my white truck. Particularly after I learned the true meaning of thin coats. ;)