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mx5
08-27-2001, 07:12 AM
I applied Klasse AIO for the first time this weekend . I found that a second coat right away gave a great shine, more so than just one. Klasse applies the best with the sponge or foam applicator and not the cloth type. It rained the next day and the beading action was amazing. I applied it to the windshield which beaded well. After it stopped raining I sprayed some washer fluid to clean the window. It then started raining again and the beading seem to go away on the windshield. Klasse does not seem to hold up well against alchohol based products then. Don`t most QD`s have achohol in them? Will this remove the acrylic sealant if you use a QD? Maybe my wiper blades are real good and just wiped off the AIO which may not bond to glass well.

On the bottle it says Klasse won an award in 1973. Why hasn`t Klasse become more popular over the years. It is an amazing product. The bottle though looks like it is still packaged in someones basement. I think it needs some updating.

Brad B
08-27-2001, 08:17 AM
Some windshield cleaning chemicals are real nasty and will remove anything. They can also leave water marks and etch spots in the paint. :(

JasonC8301
08-27-2001, 09:35 AM
Well, I`m doing a Klasse AIO test this winter. I put down one coat of it on a 99 MB ML320 by hand. I did this last week and will wait till next spring to re-wash and evaluate the paint.



Well got a coulpe of months before I actually write something formal about it.



Sorry for the wait,

Jason

DETAILKING
08-27-2001, 11:22 AM
only have a few % of alcohal in them...not concentrated enough to strip the wax. What kind of window washer liquid did you use? It seems to have stripped KLASSE off your windows. Some of them are harsh cleaners, just wondering what you used.



What kind of award was won in 1973? I wonder if this is the same formulation from way back then.......



When did people here start using KLASSE? Who has used it the longest, and has it always seemed the same?

BradE
08-27-2001, 11:26 AM
DK,



It won a Honorary Gold Metal from the European Association of Inventors in 1973.



Dont know if it has been changed over the years or not.

mx5
08-27-2001, 11:30 AM
I used just the plain blue cheap junk. None of the expensive bug cleaner, anti-freezing, or rain-x protectant type. I also didn`t spray a lot.

imported_Jim
08-27-2001, 05:14 PM
From what I understand about Klasse, you`ll have more of a sheeting reaction when the surface becomes wet. I guess the same holds true for the windshield.

YoSteve
08-27-2001, 06:16 PM
clean your windows using literally 1 drop of AIO and a slightly more damp mf applicator (it`ll do all the windows). wipe dry with an MT (this is for upkeep on clean windows)



As for QD with alcohol. On the back of many QD bottles it said that if it doesn`t absorb redily then it`s time to rewax (I`ve always wondered about this statement) I would imagine it deals with the small percentage of alcohol`s ability to remove the wax.



On the other hand, the QD I use has carnuba in it, coupled with the smoothness of Pinnacle B.S. it, IMO, made my car look and bead better then 1 week after I last detailed my car in April.

Don2000g
08-27-2001, 09:05 PM
As much as I love Klasse, you would think that this company would come out with some newer info on the bottles. 1973? Man, that`s old! I love the containers though.

imported_broker99
11-23-2009, 09:02 PM
This Cadillac CTS belongs to a good friend of mine. I completed this detail the beginning of this past summer. I was looking at some old pictures and figured that I would post some of the pictures of this job. The story goes I owed him a favor and he asked if I could detail his car to return the favor. At first I thought it was a fair request until he arrived with the car. This is what I was faced with.
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1868.jpg?t=1259027006
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1863.jpg?t=1259027073
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http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1895.jpg?t=1259025222
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http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1932.jpg?t=1259025655

I have a few more pictures but I think you get the idea. It was pretty bad.

The correction process started with two passes of SIP with the Makita on a PFW pad. I finished down with PO85RD on a white pad. I sealed it with Opti-seal and topped that with Poorboy?s Natty Blue paste wax.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1970.jpg?t=1259027261
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1976.jpg?t=1259027298
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http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture1987.jpg?t=1259027497
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http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/broker99/Picture2007.jpg?t=1259027697

thanks

imported_Luster
11-23-2009, 09:09 PM
That`s a typical abused black Caddy!

Nice work... you definitely paid off the favor you owned him! Looks excellent. Don`t you just love it when a plan comes together?!:thumbup:

Old Pirate
11-23-2009, 09:21 PM
Wow, Awesome correction on the Caddy. Now I know where to send the black Caddy`s too.:thumbup:

MB Fan
11-23-2009, 09:39 PM
oh my gosh! what an incredible job!!! hard to believe you could get it to look almost new considering what it looked like when you started.:notworthy: :notworthy:

imported_RaskyR1
11-23-2009, 09:46 PM
Nice work broker! love how Menzerna finishes on those black Caddy`s! :thumbup:

imported_broker99
11-23-2009, 10:00 PM
That`s a typical abused black Caddy!

Nice work... you definitely paid off the favor you owned him! Looks excellent. Don`t you just love it when a plan comes together?!:thumbup:


Wow, Awesome correction on the Caddy. Now I know where to send the black Caddy`s too.:thumbup:


oh my gosh! what an incredible job!!! hard to believe you could get it to look almost new considering what it looked like when you started.:notworthy: :notworthy:


Nice work broker! love how Menzerna finishes on those black Caddy`s! :thumbup:

thanks guys. Yeah Rasky the menzerna really does a nice job. I was surprised how hard that clear was. Looking back on it if I had more time (and getting paid for it) I would have like to go all out on just to see how it would come out. I was still pretty happy thou.