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Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 02:41 PM
Tips & Techniques for using a Spray Detailer to Remove Light Dust, Fingerprints and Smudges (http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/autogeek-net-sponsored-forum/28271-tips-techniques-using-spray-detailer-remove-light-dust-fingerprints-smudges.html)

Spray Detailers are for removing,


Light dust
Fingerprints
Smudges
And most can also be used as a clay lubricant (Read Manufactures Recommendations first)


Spray detailers are wonderful, time-saving products if used correctly on the correct condition of finish. They enable you to restore that "Just Detailed" look quickly and easily without having to wash and wax your car.

The key is evaluating the condition of your car`s paint and making the right judgment as to whether it`s safe to use a spray detailer or if it would be more intelligent to clean your car using a normal car wash process with a free flowing water source or a Rinseless Wash if you`re not in an area where you can perform a normal car wash.

The most common question I see posted on a forum or asked in a detailing class, or more accurately, the most common concern presented in a class or on the forum goes something like this,

How dirty can a car be and you can still safely use a spray detailer to wipe
surface dirt off the car without inflicting swirls and scratches in the process?


The answer is what I typed in the first part of this article and over the years I find myself typing this answer out over and over again because for some reason it either doesn`t sink in, or a segment of the car detailing population doesn`t like the answer.

So here it is again,

Spray Detailers are for removing,


Light dust
Fingerprints
Smudges
Spray Detailers are NOT for removing caked on mud after you`ve been 4-wheeling in the mud bogs.


So how dirty can a car be?
The car can have light dust and then if you use a premium quality spray detailer, a premium quality microfiber polishing towel and good technique, then you can wipe the surface clean and not instill any swirls and scratches.


The definition of light dust
Here`s what light dust means... if you walk over to the hood of your car and you can see visible light dust, and with a strong breath blow over the hood and see the light dust move, this is light dust.

Light dust is just that, it`s a light accumulation of airborne dust and contaminants that have landed primarily on horizontal surfaces and have not in any way bonded to the paint.

Once light dust bonds to the paint it is no longer light dust but is in fact a film of dust or a film of dirt.

For example, if you wash and dry your car on Monday morning and the car sits outside exposed to the elements all day, (dry weather, as in it`s not raining or snowing), and by that Monday night you can see an accumulation of light dust on the surface, this is light dust.

Now if you leave your car parked outside overnight and dew forms on the exterior panels, the light dust will mix with the dew moisture and begins to form a film that will no longer simply blow off with air or dust-off using a tool like a California Duster. At least some portion of the previously un-bonded light dust has now become a bonded film.

If this pattern repeats for a few days, a week or a few weeks, that is each day dust settles on the car, the dust mixes with dew moisture over night, then the daytime dust will become a dirt film on the paint.

Again, spray detailers can be used safely to remove light dust. The key word here is safely.


Quote:
Question: Can spray detailers be used to remove a dirt film that has built up onto the paint?

Answer: Yes.


Question: Can spray detailers be used to safely remove a dirt film that has built up onto the paint?

Answer: What`s your definition of safely.

If by safely you mean that there is ZERO chance of inflicting swirls and scratches into the paint and you`re going to inspect and measure under the most grueling of light conditions then I would never publicly state it could be done safely and would never recommend it for this person, (this person = the person with the dirt film on the paint), in this application, especially if the car in question has a clear coated black or dark colored finish.

That`s because once dust and dirt form into a film onto a scratch-sensitive coating like your car`s clear coat finish, you`re going to have to rub a little in order to completely loosen this film and remove it and that`s not what most people would consider safe if the definition of safe means to not inflict any swirls or scratches.

Once your car`s paint has a film of dust built-up on the surface, you can use a spray detailer to clean your car but you`ve passed the limits and expectations of what a spray detailer is formulated to do safely. It will still clean and remove the dirt film, and you can be as careful as you like, but your expectations should be grounded in reality.

Once your car`s finish has more than light dust accumulated on the surface, then it`s time to consider using a normal car wash or a Rinseless Wash to remove the dirt if your goal is to maintain a swirl and scratch-free surface.

It could be that you could use a spray detailer on a car with worse than light dust on the paint and work completely safe and cause no marring of any type, but that will have to be your decision and you`ll need to access the risk involved and weigh it against your expectations for the quality of finish you expect to see on your car.

In the real world, if you`re car is not a garage queen, that is your car is a daily driver and while it has a very nice finish, you understand that through normal wear-n-tear that fine swirls are almost unavoidable when it comes to clear coat finishes that are exposed to the elements 24 hours a day and 7 days a week... if you understand this, then spray detailers are great for removing light dust and even light dust that`s accumulated over a few days.

It`s just a matter of matching your expectations with reality because reality is that clear coat paints are scratch-sensitive, this means while they tend to be harder (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/21924-practical-differences-between-single-stage-paints-clear-coat-paints.html) than traditional single stage paints, like the paint that originally came on a 1965 Mustang, they can still scratch very easily and because there`s a colored basecoat of paint under the clear layer, this basecoat layer of paint acts to magnify any swirls or scratches in the top layer of clear paint and this makes it all too easy for your eyes to see, especially on a sunny day or under bright lights.


Spray detailers are great!
I love using them on my cars in-between a normal wash job and a regular coat of wax; but I fully understand what a spray detailer is formulated for and capable of doing and what is an unreal expectation.


Let`s talk about spray detailers...

How a spray detailer works
A quality spray detailer is supposed to lubricate, even HYPER lubricate the surface to help prevent scratching. A quality spray detailer will encapsulate dirt and dust particulates to help prevent scratching the paint during wipe-off. Most spray detailers also smell very nice and that always makes cleaning your car more enjoyable.



Tools Needed

A premium quality spray detailer
A collection of premium quality microfiber polishing cloths, each folded 4-ways.


Note: Folding your microfiber polishing cloths 4-ways will,

Give you 8 sides of clean microfiber cloth to wipe with.
Help spread out the pressure from you hand



How to use a spray detailer

First mist the spray detailer over a small section of a panel.


Next spread the spray detailer around gently with one side of a microfiber polishing cloth (folded 4-ways).


Then quickly turn to the dry side and gently remove the spray detailer and buff the paint in this section to a dry, high shine. You are now finished with this section.
Before moving onto a new section, re-fold your microfiber polishing towel to expose a clean, dry side.

When starting a new section, remember to overlap a little into the previous section.

After you’ve used all 8 sides of a single microfiber polishing towel, switch to a fresh, clean microfiber polishing towel.


Two things you can do to help a spray detailer do its job better...

1. Use PLENTY of premium quality microfiber polishing towels
Don`t try to wipe your entire car down using one or two towels if the goal is to maintain a flawless finish.

How many microfiber polishing towels do you need?
10 to 12 Microfibers for an average size car. This is not a hard rule but an average based upon the pictures showing how I sliced-up the 1966 Mustang below.

If you want to take wiping a car down with a spray detailer to the extreme, then you fold a microfiber 4-ways and this give you 8 clean wiping sides. Do one wiping process one time with one side and then turn or fold to a new side. The more careful you want to be, the smaller you should make the section you wipe.

Assuming you fold to a fresh, clean, dry side of a folded microfiber for each new section, then working small sections will mean only removing small portions of dust which will be gathered onto the working face of the folded microfiber. The larger the section, the more potential dust you will remove and transfer to the working face of the folded microfiber.

Smaller sections = you`ll need more microfiber polishing towels.

Larger sections = you`ll need less microfiber polishing towels.

Small Vehicles = you`ll need less microfiber polishing towels.

Large Vehicles = you`ll need more microfiber polishing towels.



Personal comment
I worked in a Class 9000 Clean Room and we used a very strict protocol for wiping down surfaces with clean room wipes. The protocol was to wipe a surface with one side of a wipe one time, turn wipe over and make one new dedicated wipe and then dispose of the wipe. If there is more surface area to be cleaned, you get a new wipe. For wiping down a table or a large manufacturing tool, some as large as a small room, this took a lot of time and used a lot of wipes. The goal was somewhat the same as it is for removing dust off the car and that was to remove the dust, not spread it around. By only wiping with a single working face of a clean room wipe one time, that helped to insure any dust gathered off the surface was not merely transferred to a new section of the item being wiped by either turning to a clean side or disposing of the wipe.


2. Use good technique
Always fold your microfiber polishing towels 4-ways, this will give you 8 wiping sides and this will help to spread out the pressure form your hand. Wipe carefully, not like a Wild Man. Start at the top and work your way down. Horizontal surfaces will accumulate dirt, dust and airborne contaminants more than vertical surfaces. The lower portions of a vertical surface will accumulate more dirt and road grim than the upper portions of a vertical surface.

southerndetail
02-01-2010, 02:54 PM
I have a hard time believing you need 80 different sides of a towel on an average, lightly dusty car.

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:10 PM
I have a hard time believing you need 80 different sides of a towel on an average, lightly dusty car.

That`s only 10 microfiber polishing cloths?

Besides that, this article was targeted at a show car and an AR owner, everyone can do less than this if they choose and most people would choose to do less. For a Ford Taurus or any Grocery Getter or as you wrote, an average, lightly dusty car, use one microfiber if that`s to your liking.

One thing about writing on discussion forums is that you have to write for a very wide spectrum audience. If you target the most extreme enthusiast you will by default have written for everyone.

Plus the really cool thing about discussion forums is you can always write your own articles and share your tips and techniques with the world!


Now I`ll finish posting the rest of the article...




:)

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:11 PM
How large of a section to wipe
You have to use your own judgment when it comes to how-to slice-up the panels on your specific car. Below is an example as to how I would slice up this 1966 Convertible Mustang but it will give you the basic idea for slicing up your own car`s panels.


When I look at a car to work on, whether it`s sanding, compounding, polishing and even wiping with a spray detailer, I will slice up the car`s panels because for most procedures you don`t tackle entire panels at one time except when applying a Last Step Product like a finishing wax or finishing paint sealant, (LSP).

Therefore you must slice up each individual panel into smaller sections. Because body styles can vary greatly between vehicles, how you slice-up a car is dependent upon the size and shape of the individual panels that make up the car.

Below are before and after pictures of examples of how I would slice-up a 1966 Mustang with notes for each of the pictures that explain how and why I sliced up the panels the way I did. How you do this on your car will be in part personal preference, feel free to slice up your car any way you want.

Because the panel itself can have a strong influence on how you work on it, the I always follow this practice,

"Let the panel be your guide"


Picture 1 - Hood
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer01.jpg


I would slice the hood up by dividing it into 4 equal quadrants. The tops of the fenders are their own section and the panel before the windshield with the grill is it`s own section.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer01F.jpg

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Picture 2 - Vertical Front Fender Panel
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer02.jpg




I would slice the side of this fender up with an emphasis on upper and lower portions. Typically the lower portions will tend to have more dirt and road grime build-up so I don`t want to be wiping from a lower portion of a panel upward. Start at the top and work down. You could even wipe only the top and middle portions of a vertical panel and save all the lowest panels for last as a Best Practice to create a built-in way to insure you never mix dirt on the bottom of the car onto panel section in the middle and top.


Wiping Lower Portions First Technique
Taking wiping with a spray detailer to the extreme
If you really want to get extreme you could wipe all the lower panels first with very defined stop point where you stop wiping towards the middle and upper portions of the vertical panel. After you go all the way around the car wiping only the lowest portions of the panel, then tackle the upper and middle portions. By wiping only the lowest portions first and absolutely stopping before wiping the middle, you insure there`s no way to overreach and wipe too far into a lower panel while wiping a middle portion of a panel and accidentally cross-contaminating the dirt on a lower panel to a portion of a panel in the middle. This is very extreme practice but because the nature of online enthusiasts trend towards the extreme I`ve included this practice in this article.


Applies to car washing too
I do use the above approach when washing some cars. That is wash the wheels and tires first for the reasons outlined here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7598756069207401372&q=showcargarage&hl=en#), and then wash and rinse the lower portions of all the vertical panels of a car first before starting at the top of the car and work downward.

If you first remove all the dirt and road grime from the lowest portions of a car there`s now way you can accidentally or on purpose wash a lower portion and transfer what is usually a heavier concentration of dirt and road grime onto your wash mitt and the rub it against a middle or upper portion. (Is that too AR?). Of course you`ll want to change to new, clean wash solution after washing the lower panels and also switch to a new or clean wash mitt as you shouldn`t and wouldn`t want to use the wash mitt you used on the lower panels on the upper panels.

Fender Lips
The actual inner portion of all Fender Lips can potentially have more dirt and road grim accumulation built-up than the rest of the car due to dirt slinging off the tires due to centrifugal force. For this reason, the inner portion of all Fender Lips should be wiped off first before tackling the rest of the car to insure there`s no possibility of transferring dirt for this small, thin curved panel onto the surrounding exterior panels.

The below panel would take a minimum of 2 microfiber polishing towels. You`ll need 10 sides of a average microfiber polishing towel folded to create 8 wiping sides. One side to spread a spray detailer over one section and then one side to wipe the spray detailer off that section. 5 Sections on a single panel requires 10 wiping sides of a microfiber polishing towel, which means you`ll need 2 microfiber polishing towels.

If you use the Wiping Lower Portions First Technique listed above for wiping all the lower portions of the car first before tackling the upper and middle portions, then when you returned to this panel you would only need one microfiber as you would only have 3 sections to wipe.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer02F.jpg

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:12 PM
Picture 3 - Vertical Door Panel
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer03.jpg



For the vertical door panel, again I break the panel up into 3 levels, upper, middle and lower portions. Wipe the top section and then move downward and with each panel be folding your microfiber polishing towel to a clean, dry side. This panel would take a minimum of 8 sides of a average microfiber polishing towel folded to create 8 wiping sides. One side to spread a spray detailer over one section and then one side to wipe the spray detailer off that section. 4 Sections on a single panel requires 8 wiping sides of a microfiber polishing towel.

If you use the Wiping Lower Portions First Technique listed above for wiping all the lower portions of the car first before tackling the upper and middle portions, then when you returned to this panel you would only need one microfiber as you would only have 3 sections to wipe.



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer03F.jpg


Picture 4 - Vertical Rear Fender Panel
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer04.jpg



Again, I slice-up this panel into upper, middle and lower section. This panel would take a minimum of 12 sides of a average microfiber polishing towel folded to create 8 wiping sides, which means you would need two microfiber polishing towels. Extra care must be taken around the chrome trim as there may be dirt and/or abrasive particulates lodged between the trim and paint. The actual inner surface of the fender lip should be wiped before wiping any of the exterior surrounding paint.

If you use the Wiping Lower Portions First Technique listed above for wiping all the lower portions of the car first before tackling the upper and middle portions, then when you returned to this panel you would only need one microfiber as you would only have 4 sections to wipe.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer04F.jpg

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:13 PM
Picture 5 - Rear Trunk Lid
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer05.jpg




For this panel I would slice up the outer edge panels as dedicated panels and wipe these first, this is called edging. Then slice the horizontal surface into two sections, you could also break this major panel up into 4 sections but it`s pretty easy to knock out as two sections.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer05F.jpg



Picture 6 - Rear Vertical Panels
Note: Rear vertical panels tend to have a lot of road grime and in some cases exhaust pollution built-up on them as the gasses coming out of your exhaust can swirl around in this area in a back-draft and create an oily film that will attract dirt and dust in the air, so be mindful of this and don`t use a microfiber used in this section over any other panels, especially the major panels.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer06.jpg



This section is basically sliced-up into it`s two major sections, the panel between the tail lights, (which should also be wiped), and the panel under the chrome bumper, which will probably be the grungiest panel on the entire car. Modern cars don`t have dedicated chrome bumpers and instead the entire back of most modern cars are large bumper/cover panels. These will tend to be covered in road grime too, so don`t use a microfiber from this section on any of the major panels.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/SlicingUpCar4SprayDetailer06F.jpg



Hope this this helps show how to slice up a car for wiping with a spray detailer.


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Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:15 PM
Autogeek`s Spray Detailers

Autogeek offers a wide selection of spray detailers all of which are high quality. Autogeek also offers a wide selection of microfiber polishing cloths. Below is list of clickable links to the various selection of products.


Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pincrysmis.html)
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pin32164oz.html)
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/crysmis1gal.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/64-wg-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/128-wg-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Detailer`s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 32 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html)
Detailer`s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/dpforiwash12.html)
DP Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-final-gloss-detailer.html)
DP Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-final-gloss-gallon.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer - 12 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detail-spray.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detailer-64.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detailer-128.html)
Dodo Juice Time To Dry Drying Detailer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-drying-detailer.html)
Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-sealant-detailer.html)
Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-fast-clean-shine-detail-spray.html)
Duragloss Marine & RV Detail Spray #521 - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-marine---rv-detail-spray--521.html)
Griot`s Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 35 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-speed-shine-detailer.html)
Griot`s Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-speed-shine-gallon.html)
Griot`s Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 35 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-waterless-wash.html)
Griot`s Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-waterless-wash-128.html)
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine 31 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-425-detailer.html)
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-425-body-shine.html)
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 31 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-antistatic-detailer.html)
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-antistatic-detailer-128oz.html)

For some reason the discussion forum software won`t let me post huge chunks of text so I`m breaking it up a little.


:)

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:17 PM
Liquid Glass Detail Spray - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/liquid-glass-detail-spray.html)
Mothers California Gold Showtime Instant Detailer - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/motcalgolind.html)
Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-quik-detailer.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meg34finin.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/1gallonrefill2.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-135-synthetic-detailer.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-gallon-spray-detailer-135.html)
Meguiars NXT Generation Speed Detailer - 24 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/mg13224.html)
Meguiars Flagship Ultimate Boat Detailer - 24 Ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-flagship-ultimate-boat-detailer.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #52 Quik Clean Mist & Wipe - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-quik-clean-52.html)
Meguiar`s D15501 Last Touch Spray Detailer - 1 gallon (http://.autogeek.net/meguiar-s-last-touch-spray.html)
Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-instant-detailer-17oz.html)
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html)
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg16.html)
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg32.html)
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg128.html)
Poorboy`s World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw16.html)
Poorboy`s World Waterless Wash - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw32.html)
Poorboy`s World Waterless Wash - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw128.html)
S100 Special Surfaces Cleaner - 10 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/s100-special-surfaces.html)
Ultima Detail Spray Plus - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-quick-detailer.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detail-spray.html)



Cleaning Only
This product is for chemically stripping the finish to inspect the true results but because it is formulated to safely remove dust from polish and compounding residue it gets honorable mention. It is not formulated to create a high gloss, slick surface which most spray detailers.
Menzerna Top Inspection - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-top-inspection.html)

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Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:18 PM
Autogeek`s Showcase of Spray Detailers

Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pincrysmis.html)
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pin32164oz.html)
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/crysmis1gal.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/PinnacleSprayDetailer.jpg



Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/64-wg-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/128-wg-instant-detail-spritz.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/WolfGangSprayDetailer.jpg



Detailer`s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 32 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html)
Detailer`s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/dpforiwash12.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/ProBlend012.jpg



Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detail-spray.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 64 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detailer-64.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer - gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detailer-128.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/XMTSprayDetailer.jpg

Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:18 PM
Dodo Juice Time To Dry Drying Detailer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-drying-detailer.html)
Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-sealant-detailer.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/DodoJuiceSprayDetailers.jpg



Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-fast-clean-shine-detail-spray.html)
Duragloss Marine & RV Detail Spray #521 - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-marine---rv-detail-spray--521.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/DuraGlossTwinsSprayDetailer.jpg



Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine 31 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-425-detailer.html)
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 31 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-antistatic-detailer.html)
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Griot`s Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 35 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-speed-shine-detailer.html)
Griot`s Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 35 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-waterless-wash.html)
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Liquid Glass Detail Spray - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/liquid-glass-detail-spray.html)
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Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Meguiar`s Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meg34finin.html)
Meguiar`s Mirror Glaze #52 Quik Clean Mist & Wipe - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-quik-clean-52.html)
Meguiar`s NXT Generation Speed Detailer - 24 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/mg13224.html)
Meguiar`s Ultimate Quik Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-quik-detailer.html) http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/MeguiarsSprayDetailers.jpg


Meguiar`s Motorcycle Spray Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/motorcycle-detailer.html)
Last Touch Spray Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiar-s-last-touch-spray.html)
Meguiar`s Flagship Ultimate Boat Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-flagship-ultimate-boat-detailer.html) - Not pictured
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Mothers California Gold Showtime Instant Detailer - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/motcalgolind.html)
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No Rinse Wash & Shine - 32 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html)
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/opnoriwash12.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/NORSprayDetailer.jpg



Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-instant-detailer-17oz.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/OptimumSprayDetailer02.jpg




Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg32.html)
Poorboy`s World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw16.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/PoorBoysSprayDetailers.jpg




S100 Special Surfaces Cleaner - 10 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/s100-special-surfaces.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/S100SprayDetailerM.jpg




Ultima Detail Spray Plus - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-quick-detailer.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/UltimaSprayDetailer02.jpg




Menzerna Top Inspection - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-top-inspection.html)
Not a true spray detailer for gloss and shine but can be used to remove light dust and polishing residues
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/medium/MenzernaSprayCleaner.jpg



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Mike Phillips
02-01-2010, 03:21 PM
One more tip...

While it`s always best to work on a cool surface in the shade, sometimes you`re in a position where you have to work on a warm or hot surface in the sun, for example a bird dropping that lands on the hood while the car is on display at a car show.

For situations like this, shrink the size of your work area down to a smaller size and use a little extra product.

While this isn`t` a perfect solution, sometimes all you can do is all you can do...


:)

Bunky
02-01-2010, 06:17 PM
(http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/23128-tips-techniques-using-spray-detailer-remove-light-dust-fingerprints-smudges.html)
Light dust is just that, it`s a light accumulation of airborne dust and contaminants that have landed primarily on horizontal surfaces and have not in any way bonded to the paint.

This definition seems to limit the applicator. Given how often can have condensation like when sitting over night, a detailer would not be appropriate the next day. How can this be recommended for bug/bird bombs that have bonded which is often a recommended use?

How do you draw the line on what is possible with a waterless wash product like Poorboy`s Spray and Wipe or DP Waterless Wash (have both). Another detailing product brand still uses the "not bonded" even for their waterless wash. In this case, it is a simply a detailer without any gloss/slickness enhancing properties.

I have basically switched the rinseless product above for spray detailer applications except after a wash.

I am still not using what I like often enough!:D

Mike Phillips
02-02-2010, 10:24 AM
This definition seems to limit the applicator. Given how often can have condensation like when sitting over night, a detailer would not be appropriate the next day.


If you read the directions and recommendations of most if not all "Spray Detailers", the --> manufacture<-- states their product is for removing light dust.

I`m not going to go against the manufacturer`s recommendations but if you or anyone else wants to write your own article and tell people they can safely remove dirt off their car`s paint and not scratch it then please feel encouraged to do so and then answer any questions your readers might have as to your recommendations.


Here`s a little story...
All most all my posting life on forums and my life of teaching detailing classes I always have a forum member or class attendee that asks,

Won`t wiping the paint with a spray detailer put scratches in the paint?

How do you answer that guy?

Usually they are asking about a dirty car, not a car with light dust, and for them wiping their car down might put scratches into their car`s paint and that`s why I wrote this Tips and Techniques not targeted at Joe Consumer but at the serious car enthusiasts that understand what is and what is not possible.

There`s no perfect solution because sooner or later you have to "Touch" your car`s paint, whether with a Spray Detailer, A Rinseless Wash or a Full Blown Normal Car Wash.

Anytime you "touch" your car`s paint, the potential exists to instill a swirl or scratch, your job and my job is to

Reduce the potential

And we do that by going to the extreme tips I spelled out in this article. If you`re not concerned with instilling swirls into your white Astro Van then wipe it down any old way and only use one microfiber or even a red oil checking rag like mechanic use, that`s entirely up to you.

It`s not dirty but it is a white Astro Van!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/astrovan.jpg


Everyone that reads this can take away from it what they will, it might not be that everyone cares enough about wiping their paint down carefully that they`ll go to the extremes I posted but if the goal is to wipe down a perfectly polished paint job and not instill any swirls or scratches then -->you<-- must do everything you can to reduce the potential and that means,


Wiping smaller sections
Using more microfiber polishing towels
Using good technique


Don`t know if I can explain it any simpler.

Also, when I say -->you<-- I don`t mean you personally Bunky, but just rhetorically speaking.

:)







How can this be recommended for bug/bird bombs that have bonded which is often a recommended use?


I think I wrote that sometimes you don`t have any alternatives, here let me quote myself,





While it`s always best to work on a cool surface in the shade, sometimes you`re in a position where you have to work on a warm or hot surface in the sun, for example a bird dropping that lands on the hood while the car is on display at a car show.

For situations like this, shrink the size of your work area down to a smaller size and use a little extra product.

While this isn`t` a perfect solution, sometimes all you can do is all you can do...



Note the last sentence,

Sometimes all you can do is all you can do...


There is no perfect solution for removing a dried bird dropping, I was posting more of a fresh bird dropping but here you go...


How to safely remove a dried bird dropping from off your car`s paint
If you have a completely dried bird dropping on your car`s finish, and you DON`T have access to a water hose with free flowing water, then instead of wiping it off with a spray detailer, do this instead,


Take a clean microfiber polishing cloth, you can even use a household wash rag or kitchen towel and wet it with water. Next place it onto the dried bird dropping.

Let the wet cloth stand on the dried bird dropping for 5-10 minutes.

Now, carefully enclose the wet-microfiber around the bird dropping using your fingers to bunch-up the microfiber and LIFT the bird dropping off the paint. Don`t simply wipe the bird dropping off by grabbing the wet microfiber and wiping or rubbing it over the paint.

Adding water to a clean microfiber polishing cloth to re-liquefy a dried bird dropping
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/HowToSafelyLoosenaDriedBirdDropping.jpg


How this technique works
The wet cloth will hold the water onto the dried bird dropping and enable the water to penetrate into the dried bird dropping and re-liquefy it. Once it`s back to a soft, gooey state, you will be able to more safely remove it from the paint and reduce the potential of accidentally instilling any swirls or scratches in the process.

Another option would be to rinse the re-liquefied bird dropping off the paint with a free flowing source of water like from your garden hose. (If that`s handy).

That`s the KISS method, that is,

KISS = Keep it Simple Simon


You can take it to a more extreme level and instead of using only water, also use a slippery spray detailer and wet one side of the clean cloth with the spray detailer, actually saturate it and then place it on top of the dried bird dropping and then add some water on top of that. This will create a film of lubricity between the paint surface and the cloth.






How do you draw the line on what is possible with a waterless wash product like Poorboy`s Spray and Wipe or DP Waterless Wash (have both).


That`s completely subjective. That would depend upon you and your goals and the paint on the car you`re working on.

If you have a daily driver and you`re not concerned with minor day-in and day-out wear and tear because you realize that`s going to happen no matter what, then you might push the envelope a little further with how dirty your car is before switch to a normal car wash instead of a rinseless wash.

A guy with a true show car that sits inside of his garage except on sunny days might not ever be in a position to have to make that choice because his car never gets that dirty.

:)