SSR2 for German paint?

[CarGlow]

I`m going to detail a black VW Passat soon. It looks pretty good, but has some problem areas from tree sap residue and other stuff, particualry on the hood.

I heard German paint is different, e.g., soft clear coat.

Is SSR2 suitable for German paint or should I use AIO?

[Patrick]

I would go with the AIO to start with, its all chemical cleaning anyway....(try on a small area)
If that doesnt cut it, go with the SSR2.......
What are you sealing with ?

[CarGlow]

Originally posted by Patrick
What are you sealing with ?


Haven`t really decided yet ... probably SG.

That paint is so pretty you could use just about anything and it looks great!
:)

[runnerbl]

Here is link (http://www.properautocare.com/aregepadi.html) for article on German paint

[CarGlow]

runnerbl,

Thanks ... I`ve read that article awhile back. That`s what prompted the question if SSR2 is suitable for German paints.

CMA recommends AIO, IP, and FP.

[JimS]

If you are worried that SSR2 might be too much why not go with SSR1?:doh :beat :)

[CarGlow]

Originally posted by JimS
If you are worried that SSR2 might be too much why not go with SSR1?:doh :beat :)

If you mean too aggresive, that`s not the problem. That CMA article suggest compounds with physical abrassives, e.g. DACP, isn`t the best choice.

So I guess I should have asked is SSR2 primarly a "chemical" cleaner or a "physical" cleaner?

[CharlesW]

Originally posted by CarGlow
I`m going to detail a black VW Passat soon. It looks pretty good, but has some problem areas from tree sap residue and other stuff, particualry on the hood.

I heard German paint is different, e.g., soft clear coat.

Is SSR2 suitable for German paint or should I use AIO? Maybe I just don`t understand, but it seems like the problem you have is not swirls.
From your description, it seems to be contaminants on the paint.
I thought Poorboy`s SSR line was for swirl removal. SSR = Super Swirl Remover.

If you mean too aggresive, that`s not the problem. That CMA article suggest compounds with physical abrassives, e.g. DACP, isn`t the best choice.

Whether or not DACP is the best choice, I have no idea. It very definitely has physical abrasives, though. On Meguiar`s scale of 1 to 10 for abrasives, DACP is a 6. For comparison, the Meg`s swirl removal products are a 3.
A good cleaner such as AIO might do the trick, but then again, it may not. Maybe Poorboy`s Professional Polish would work.
Tree sap can be a real problem. IMO, I do think I would try to remove it with chemicals first rather than abrasives.

Charles

[Poorboy]

:yeah

if swirls are not the problem then all you need is something like Professional Polish or PwC...
sounds to me that PwC would be the product you really want..
German paints are harder and not softer..harder the clearcoat=easier it scratches...

[kimwallace]

Poorboy ...
Please explain ...
"..harder the clearcoat=easier it scratches..."
I would think it would be ... softer the clear coat = easier it scratches.

[Poorboy]

I always thought that too until i had dinner with a Sikkens paint rep. He explained that the harder it was the less forgiving it would be to scratching and scuffing, the softer ones like ppg seem to give a little before scratching and also making it easier to remove.
That`s how he explained it but he had a lot more paint knowledge than I

[kimwallace]

Thanks,
My wife has a BMW and the paint seems extremely hard ...
That said ... it took a lot of more work to remove the scratches ...
Another car I did was repainted a year ago and the paint was softer and it seemed easier to induce swirls into the paint but it was easier to remove the scratches ...
Come to think of it ... the BMW had more scratches than my daily driver ...
Confusing ...
Thanks again :-)

[Poorboy]

Also paint type should be considered when choosing the right cloth/pad for the right finish.
Some people complain about inducing scratches while trying to remove others....

[jgv]

Originally posted by CarGlow
runnerbl,

Thanks ... I`ve read that article awhile back. That`s what prompted the question if SSR2 is suitable for German paints.

CMA recommends AIO, IP, and FP.

Another BS from CMA :nono

I`ve done Audis, BMW, Porsches, more BMWs, etc. Porsche has a very soft paint, some BMW has it harder while others are softer.

The method has nothing to do with the paints nationality, product selection must be made acordingly to what you want it to do.
Try on a small section first, and you`ll find the product that will work for you.
Anyway, you can always change it during the process.

[ACE]

The paint on my Jetta is relatively soft. SSR1 or Griots Machine Polish 3 gets out all the spiderwebs and I see no need to go with more agressive products. AIO works well too, but it won`t remove light swirls the way a true abrasive polish will.