Painted Plastic Bumpers?

[Beemerboy]

I recently brought a new Nissan Murano Pic attached. The day I took deleivery it was raining big time. Since then I have cleaned the car quite a few times, and have noticed the rear door to be some what a diiferent shade than the rest of the car.
At first I thought that it might just be the lighting, but that`s not the case. You can see a difference in the metalic in the paint. I took it to the dealer and he said that the rear door is made from a real hard plastic, and that the paint might not bond as well to plastic -vs- metal.

They are having a factory rep come look at the car and if that is the case they will repaint.

Now for the question anyone else have info on this or seen this ?

Thanks

[NEW AGAIN]

Bemmer

Not to scare you, What if the door was damage before and the dealer painted it without your knowledge. feel around the edges of the door if rough or grit like feel it`s has been painted

Have you check into that. Just trying to help Good Luck

[jimmybuffit]

Paint for plastic bumpers have a flex agent added to them. But they match!
That`s not an acceptable answer.

Shoot the same question to Ron Ketchum at ketch@autoint.com. He`s got 30 years of OEM paint experience. He`ll be happy to give you his opinion.

Jim

Oh, Ron is with Automotive International in Cincinnati.

[kimwallace]

The flex additive changes the structure of the paint somewhat. I do not totally understand it but most of the time the paint with the flex additive does not match the rest of the paint 100%. Most of the time it is not noticed because the bumpers and side moldings sit lower on the vehicle. Also many times the plastic components of a vehicle are painted at a different site from the rest of the vehicle. It should match but it doesn`t always

[Poorboy]

Yes Jimmy is right there is no reason that door shouldn`t match...the flex agents in the paint do not change its color.

btw...Ketch was banned a long time ago from DC for :spam..way before my time too:hippi

edit: and there shouldn`t be flex agents on a solid door no matter what it`s made of unless its material like Saturns are made of that are flexible and dent proof...

[ron]

I purchased a 2002 Dodge truck and though it was in perfect paint condition. When I traded the truck for my 2003 Tahoe the dealer found the ruff and dirt around the door and told me my truck was repainted. I said at first no way, I was the original owner and I had not had the truck painted. He said sometime vehicles are damaged in transportation and are in need of repainting. If it does not require replacing a part the dealer is not obligated to tell the buyer. I was shocked and felt the dealer had lied and deceived me. I will in the future run my hand around all corners of a vehicle I am purchasing. Check the trunk, doors hood and fenders.

[reflections]

My wife drives a saturn and the hood is metal, the rest is plastic. colors match as far as i can tell, but i`ve seen cars were there`s a noticeable difference between two parts. maybe it varies from manufacture and of course vehicle history.

[Jmunk]

I notice the bumper covers on gold Toyota Camrys don`t match.

[mobiledetail1]

Ask a dealer a question, most will tell you whatever pops into their head.... Some are good most aren`t.
If colors don`t match it`s been painted... As far as dealers selling cars with damage and repaint and not disclosing. A few years back I heard some lady sued BMW for doing that and winning a huge sum. I have never sued and don`t encourage but if you find it was repainted, that may be a good threat to get action if talking isn`t getting any.

[Beemerboy]

This hatch has not been repainted that I can see, that was a thought that I had as well and checked. The flex adjent sounds like something it could be. Its a real hard plastic that they used to keep the weight down on the door.

What I see more than anything is the lack of metalic in the hatch, in the good light you can really see it.

However having said that the dealer said they would back it up and repaint should the factory rep put his blessing on it.

Thanks for all the input that can help when I`m talking to the rep

[groebuck]

Hey Beemer - maybe you put more wax on da door ;) darkened it :)

and trust me I can relate on paint issues with a new car :(

[CharlesW]

First off, I don`t know about paint and flex agents affecting colors.
What I do know is that there are lots, and I mean lots, of vehicles out there with plastic body panels.
Recently I saw a late model Buick with a big chunk missing from the plastic front fender. Until then, I was unaware that GM used plastic in anything other than the older Lumina mini-vans and the Saturn. Obviously, I was wrong.
The term plastic as used here just refers to some material other than metal. I have no idea as to the actual composition of those panels.
By the way, the paint matched on what was left of the Buick`s fender.

Charles