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ACE
08-23-2003, 08:26 AM
I have been using Klasse and 303 for automotive purposes, but my wife and I just bought this $1700 vinyl massage chair and I needed something to preserve it. I didn`t have my 303 handy, so I bought some Vinylex at the local store because I had been wanting to try it anyway. Great stuff - beautiful, natural finish with a bit of gloss and absolutely non-greasy if you wipe it down after it`s had some time to absorb. I`m not a fan of high-gloss products, so this stuff suits me very well. I would definitely recommend it to 303 users who want just a bit of shine. Excuse me, I have to go get a massage now. ;)

Bill D
08-23-2003, 09:29 AM
It`s definitely good stuff and it`s a keeper. I did switch from Vinylex to 303 becauseI read so much praise for 303 and its top notch protection and preservation for vinyl, plastic, rubber. i plan to use on my dash, rubber seals, tires and under the hood hoses and plastics. However, I always have Vinylex on hand as well.

ACE
08-23-2003, 10:00 AM
I`m under the impression, and I well may be mistaken, that silicone-based vinyl treatments (which is just about anything except 303, Vinylex and Griots, which may be one of the 2) is actually harmful to vinyl so I try to keep all my stuff water-based. I do admit to using various silicone stuff on my tires (Eagle One and Endurance) but it`s only because I ain`t throwin` out bottles of stuff! I admit, last week I used some old STP Son of a Gun on my tires to use it up and they really looked great with a nice low-gloss sheen. Well, by the time I get my next new car in a year and a half, i`ll have it all used and go to water-based exclusively.

Bill D
08-23-2003, 11:01 AM
The whole silicone danger is what got me to switch to 303. I have plenty of silicone stuff. Still have a case of MSLT. My strategy is to use on wheel wells from time to time and during a rainy week or so when it will be washed off. Car will still look good during dry intervals. Want to save the expensive 303 for fair weather.

Tassadar
08-23-2003, 11:26 AM
I have vinylex, and I will admit that it looks good. But ive foudn that on older vinyl interiors, that it tends to be too glossy. It also attracts a lot of dust.

Then again, im comparing it to a 1990 Mustang that I use it on.

ACE
08-23-2003, 12:00 PM
Vinylex too glossy? The only product i`ve ever seen with less gloss was 303. I agree that Vinylex can be glossy, but if you give it a good wiping with a towel it tones it down quite a bit. What products outside of 303 are less glossy than Vinylex?

Tassadar
08-23-2003, 02:11 PM
PB`s Natural Look is not glossy what so ever.

Beemerboy
08-23-2003, 03:01 PM
I like the glossy look but that me and I use vinlyex for that reason. For the matted finish I use PB natural or 3M`s plastic dressing. Both of the later do about the same no gloss but a good clean finish.

Tassadar
08-23-2003, 03:02 PM
I just cannot make up my mind on this age old debate. I can never seem to get the right ammount of gloss when I need it with Vinylex.

This all falls back to my curse with interiors, I can NEVER do them right.

Ferrarislave
08-23-2003, 05:31 PM
Interior are my favorite. 303 Is awsome on interior not to glossy Vinylex is like a cheaper 303 to me it has silicones but is good for tires and other interior and exterior stuff like trim and doorjamb rubber etc.

Tassadar
08-23-2003, 05:33 PM
I don`t like to use Vinylex on tires. It leaves a VERY matte finish that to the normal person looks like an undressed tire. Therefore I prefer BnB or Megs HE.

Ferrarislave
08-23-2003, 06:08 PM
I dont use anything on my tires exept Eagle One Wet Tire Gel it works the best and leaves a stunning shine nice a glossy. I also have some EF Black Opal I sometimes mix with the gel to get even more gloss.

NattyBumppo
08-23-2003, 09:48 PM
I personally don`t care for Vinylex at all. I wold prefer 303 or PB Natural Look over it but that is just my personal taste. I find the smell of Vinylex offensive and it does have more gloss on interiors than 303. I like interior space to look clean and new not glossy. And yes, I have buffed Vinylex after application.

BTW...dont` stress out oo much over the silicone thing. There are many different type of silicone....some water based some solvent based. It is the solvent based silicones that are harmful not the water based ones. Polydimethylsiloxanes (help me here Dwayne :) ) are actually water based silicones that are quite expensive and serve as very effective protectants. The more expensive products have the water based silicones and will not harm your rubber/vinyl etc.

Unless you`re using a bottle of Armor All from 10 years ago or putting Tire Dressings on your interiors I doubt you need to worry about it.

Natty