so questions about waxing...

[theRIAA]

ive read all the intructions on waxing from lots of diffrent places, but im still a little uncertin about some stuff.

YOU DONT HAVE TO ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS! do however many you feel like, as it will be greatly apreciated!

do cars come from the dealer with any wax/protectant on them (other than CC)

everyone says not to wash you car with dish soap because it strips your wax off, if you were going to wax right after washing your car, wouldent this be a good thing?

what is the purpose of "polisher", is it used before or after waxing? right after washing? does it fill holes in the CC?

how does a clay bar work? ive heard that it only glides over the surface and removes dirt and stuff bueried into the CC, BUT, ive also heard it will stirp off all your old wax, how is this posible?

IS CLAYING NECISARY?

what do you use as a "clay lubricant"? can you just use car soap? if you use car soap can you just do it when your washing (like rinse-wash-rinse-wash-clay-rinse) or do you have to use it diluted in a spray bottle? do you use a spray bottle?

ive heard that lube comes with the clay, but i havent seen anything like that, i dont plan on buying a "kit", so what exactly is clay lube labled as?

what is the diffrence between liquid and paste (or whatever) wax? can i use spray wax? is spray wax easier?

how do you apply wax correctly? i saw this little aplicator online that automaticly despenses liquid wax like one of those soap dispensing brushes. will that work, or is that the wrong way to go?

some things have told me that you pour wax on, and wipe it off imediatly, some things told me you can do a whole pannel, and one tole me you can do the eltire car, and then wipe it off? whos right?




it seems like theres about 1000 tottaly diffrent ways to wax your car and theres no "set guidelines". i know that all products are diffrent and ill take the instructions into consideration, but ive never done this before and dont want to be left with my roof scratched up and covered in crusty white stuff just because i did this wrong.




oh... and what do you guys recomend for getting those windshild lines off my windshild? something i can get a local store pls...
..so questions.. *sigh*

[TrueDetailer]

Here ya go this should help you out.

http://www.detailcity.org/forums/search.php

You`ll be amazed at what you can find in the time it took you to type out this thread.

[ZaneO]

do cars come from the dealer with any wax/protectant on them (other than CC)

- Not typically

everyone says not to wash you car with dish soap because it strips your wax off, if you were going to wax right after washing your car, wouldent this be a good thing?

- repeated washings with dish soap can dry out rubber seals, plastics, etc.

what is the purpose of "polisher", is it used before or after waxing? right after washing? does it fill holes in the CC?

- Polishing lessens or removes swirls and other surface defects and brings out the full gloss of the paint. It should be done before waxing.

how does a clay bar work? ive heard that it only glides over the surface and removes dirt and stuff bueried into the CC, BUT, ive also heard it will stirp off all your old wax, how is this posible?

- Clay has very light abrasives that pull away contaminants and also some/all of the wax.

IS CLAYING NECISARY?

- periodically


what do you use as a "clay lubricant"? can you just use car soap? if you use car soap can you just do it when your washing (like rinse-wash-rinse-wash-clay-rinse) or do you have to use it diluted in a spray bottle? do you use a spray bottle?

- Detail spray or soap and water can be used.

ive heard that lube comes with the clay, but i havent seen anything like that, i dont plan on buying a "kit", so what exactly is clay lube labled as?

- Clay lube is essentailly detail spray (or quick detailer).

what is the diffrence between liquid and paste (or whatever) wax? can i use spray wax? is spray wax easier?

- Liquid wax is liquid (ie. pours out of a bottle) and paste wax is a soft solid in a jar. Spray waxes can be used as you wish, but they usually have limited durability.


how do you apply wax correctly? i saw this little aplicator online that automaticly despenses liquid wax like one of those soap dispensing brushes. will that work, or is that the wrong way to go?

- I prefer to apply waxes using a foam applicator in straight motions.

some things have told me that you pour wax on, and wipe it off imediatly, some things told me you can do a whole pannel, and one tole me you can do the eltire car, and then wipe it off? whos right?

- It depends on the specific product.


oh... and what do you guys recomend for getting those windshild lines off my windshild? something i can get a local store pls...

- Are the lines from the wipers?



Answers in bold (above).

[theRIAA]

i have used the search, but ive gotten lots of diffrent answers, read my post pls

Edit: thank you ZaneO youve been a big help, the lines on the outside of the wiper, where all the water is pushed out of the way (not scratches from wiper). kinda looks like a water stain

[AL-53]

good job helping him out Zane...nice guy...you gave him what he needs to start out...

Al

[ZaneO]

Edit: thank you ZaneO youve been a big help, the lines on the outside of the wiper, where all the water is pushed out of the way (not scratches from wiper). kinda looks like a water stain

Glad to help. You might try a glass polish on those areas (or even a little bar keeper`s friend).

[Beercan31]

do cars come from the dealer with any wax/protectant on them (other than CC)
Not that I know of

everyone says not to wash you car with dish soap because it strips your wax off, if you were going to wax right after washing your car, wouldn`t this be a good thing?
There are some that feel using a dish liquid is to strong for the finish of an automobile, I have used it in the past with no side effects as long as I know I was going to do a complete 5 step process.
wash, clay, wash, polish, protect.
here`s an article taken from the Meguiar`s site (http://www.meguiars.com/press/release_viewer.cfm?selected_ID=149)
1. Dishwashing detergent is safe to use as car wash. Absolutely not! Detergents are formulated to strip everything off of the surface, leaving it squeaky clean. A squeaky paint finish tells you that it has no protection. With repeated use, dishwashing detergents remove everything from your paint finish including waxes, silicones and polymers. Once this is accomplished, they then proceed to remove the life giving oils in your paint finish, actually accelerating the oxidation process. For best results, use a pH balanced car wash product with conditioners specifically formulated to enhance the appearance and protection of automotive paint finishes.

what is the purpose of "polisher", is it used before or after waxing? right after washing? does it fill holes in the CC?
polisher or polish?
A polisher is a tool to aid in enhancing the finish of your Veh. and applying polishes, waxes or polymers.
is it used before or after waxing?right after washing?
and drying..Yes
does it fill holes in the CC?
At a molecular level......yes... but this could start a whole new argument.
here is a very good article you should read. if you get confused as we all did in the beginning... take it a little at a time.
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-polishing.html

how does a clay bar work? I`ve heard that it only glides over the surface and removes dirt and stuff buried into the CC, BUT, I`ve also heard it will strip off all your old wax, how is this possible?
There are many environmental contaminants that adhere to your paint so stubbornly that even a high-quality car wash can`t remove them. Some may be visible to your eye. Others you`ll detect when you pass your hand across the finish and notice it doesn`t feel as smooth as glass. All of these contaminants can reduce your shine and ultimately do permanent damage to your paint. A safe, non-abrasive surface prep (never a harsh rubbing compound that can scratch your finish) is the answer.
Read..!!!
http://www.web-cars.com/detail/clay.php

IS CLAYING NECESSARY?
YES but not on a weekly basis, depending on your driving habits it would be a good idea to at least clay 3-4 times a year.

what do you use as a "clay lubricant"? can you just use car soap? if you use car soap can you just do it when your washing (like rinse-wash-rinse-wash-clay-rinse) or do you have to use it diluted in a spray bottle? do you use a spray bottle?
if memory serves me correctly there are 2 types, for the life of me I`m drawing a blank on the types.
I do know that 1 of them breaks down using a car wash as a lubricant and the other don`t...I`ll think of it in the middle of the night.

how do you apply wax correctly? i saw this little applicator on-line that automatically dispenses liquid wax like one of those soap dispensing brushes. will that work, or is that the wrong way to go?
follow the manufactures direction.
there have been many write-up on how to apply way, most us a horizontal swipe on the sides of Veh. and a circular motion on hoods, roofs and trunks. but this comes down to user preference.

some things have told me that you pour wax on, and wipe it off immediately, some things told me you can do a whole panel, and one tole me you can do the entire car, and then wipe it off? who`s right?
Things?
on each box, can and bottle are directions for how to use there product.... follow them.

oh... and what do you guys recommend for getting those windshield lines off my windshield? something i can get a local store pls...
..so questions.. *sigh*
?. we need this one done again. i think you might be asking how to remove scratches from a windshield....but I`d be guessing... we have no idea where your from.
Today, 07:37 PM
theRIAA
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 7

[Jngrbrdman]

Glass is significantly harder than your paint. If you have scratches in your glass from whatever cause, it is likely that you will be better off just getting a new windshield if they are that much of an issue. Polishing glass is a tricky task if the scratches are very deep.

Here are my tips on how to use clay. (http://www.detailcity.org/forums/detailing-general/4686-jngrbrdmans-guide-rail-dust-claying.html)

This is also a fairly involved article on detailing. (http://www.detailcity.org/forums/detailing-general/3136-detailing-according-jngrbrdman.html)

Give up now if you are looking for the difinitive answer on how to do this. Detailing is an art just as much as it is a science. You will get as many different ideas and suggestions as there are members of this community. Don`t look for one thread that gives you all the answers. All you are going to find are threads that give suggestions on one of the many ways to skin a cat.

[theRIAA]

thanks you guys

repeating my above post:

thank you ZaneO youve been a big help, the lines on the outside of the wiper, where all the water is pushed out of the way (not scratches from wiper). looks like a water stain

[Sparkie]

Glad to help. You might try a glass polish on those areas (or even a little bar keeper`s friend).
Bar keeper`s friend, I got to try that! I been using polish and 0000 wool.

[C. Charles Hahn]

i have used the search, but ive gotten lots of diffrent answers, read my post pls

Unfortunately no matter what you do, you`ll find lots of different answers to all of those questions. :)

[theRIAA]

Bar keeper`s friend, I got to try that! I been using polish and 0000 wool.

is that like comet? not farmiliar with this