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nEJIbMEHb
03-03-2023, 12:30 PM
Hi team!

I am getting a black Tesla, so the plan is to brush up my rusted skills. I am way out of date on products.
Previously, my stack was Klasse AIO, KSG and Liquid Souverain on top of it.

I did some research and my plan of attack would be following:

Wash with Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Shampoo
Clay with Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay/Pinnacle Clay Lubricant
Surface prep with Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish
Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Surface Prep Spray (do I need this?)
Black Label Diamond Paint Coating
Black Label Diamond Glass Coating
Black Label Diamond Wheel Coating


Do I miss something? Do I have unnecessary steps?

Thank you.

bad penny
03-03-2023, 04:43 PM
Hi team!

I am getting a black Tesla, so the plan is to brush up my rusted skills. I am way out of date on products.
Previously, my stack was Klasse AIO, KSG and Liquid Souverain on top of it.

I did some research and my plan of attack would be following:

Wash with Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Shampoo
Clay with Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay/Pinnacle Clay Lubricant
Surface prep with Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish
Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Surface Prep Spray (do I need this?)
Black Label Diamond Paint Coating
Black Label Diamond Glass Coating
Black Label Diamond Wheel Coating


Do I miss something? Do I have unnecessary steps?

Thank you.

I would clay as I washed. Skip the lube. Everything else looks advisable.
You could use the paint coating on the Windows and wheels and be fine. Worse case windshield wiper clatter. Can fix that with a 5 minute polish

Accumulator
03-05-2023, 12:20 PM
I am getting a black Tesla, so the plan is to brush up my rusted skills. I am way out of date on products.
Previously, my stack was Klasse AIO, KSG and Liquid Souverain on top of it.

Is the klasse + LS combo not what you want on black? If so, OK..I can understand that. But there`s nothing *wrong* with those "old products" and FWIW, my 20-someYO Klasse twins still work fine.

If you go with a Coating, be sure you`ll be able to avoid high spots/etc. and that the Coating will *really* outperform easier (if old-fashioned) alternatives. Just tossing that idea out there as FWIW I myself have decided that Coatings aren`t right for me, at least not on most surfaces.

FWIW#2, I might go back to using Coatings on wheels, but from what I hear it`s tough to get more than a year out of many Coatings, and I can get that with stuff that`s Accumulator-proof.

Bert
03-08-2023, 11:37 AM
Hi team!

I am getting a black Tesla, so the plan is to brush up my rusted skills. I am way out of date on products.
Previously, my stack was Klasse AIO, KSG and Liquid Souverain on top of it.

I did some research and my plan of attack would be following:

Wash with Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Shampoo
Clay with Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay/Pinnacle Clay Lubricant
Surface prep with Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish
Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Surface Prep Spray (do I need this?)
Black Label Diamond Paint Coating
Black Label Diamond Glass Coating
Black Label Diamond Wheel Coating


Do I miss something? Do I have unnecessary steps?

Thank you.

After the wash and before claying, you may want to add an iron remover. Not a mandatory step but it is pretty much agreed upon in the detailing community that removing the iron particles bonded to the surface will result in a much longer life of the coating because it will bond better with the clear coat.

You asked if the Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Surface Prep Spray (dang they use a freaking long name) was needed. I don`t know if you need that particular one but cleaning the paint with some type of prep spray is recommended to remove the oils left over on the surface of the paint after polishing again, so the coating can bond better to the clear coat and have a longer life. So I would recommend using some form of paint prep and that one should do fine if you want to stay in the Pinnacle lineup.

As far as the glass and wheel coating, you may have enough of the paint coating left over to do you wheels with it and save you the cost of the wheel coating. Let`s face it, wheels have clear coat paint also, so paint coating will work almost as good as a dedicate wheel coating so again, if you have enough left over after coating the paint, I would just use that and save your money. If after coating the paint and you don`t think you have enough left over to coat the wheels, then on your next order, include the wheel coating and take care of coating your wheels then. As far as glass coating, if you want to use theirs, I would have to think it is fine though someone in this thread said something about using the paint coating on the glass instead. That may work fine also if you have enough coating left over to do the glass too. So where I am going, you may want to save your money and see if you can use leftover paint coating on the wheels and glass. If you run out, then you can order the wheel and glass coatings another day.

Stokdgs
03-08-2023, 04:45 PM
...Congrats on the new black Tesla ! A very nice car !
...I have paint corrected a lot of them, because they sometimes come from the factory with factory paint defects..
...The paint is a medium hard paint in my experiences with them...
...The paint will correct just fine, if you know what you are doing..
...I would recommend a LOT of good lighting from above and the sides, front, back, so you can really see what you are doing..
...Have had Lots of black cars in my life, paint corrected hundreds more, and my last 2 in the garage are a metallic black Jeep and a jet black Ranger truck...
...People tell me - "don`t buy black, but I tell them, I know how to take care of any type of black paint, so I will be ok... And I am... :)
...Good luck with your project !
Dan F

dcjredline
03-28-2023, 10:12 AM
Seems like you are posting the same question 4x. lol