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bcgreen
07-05-2019, 10:39 AM
Had such a great experience years ago that I had applied on a vehicle I no longer own, circa 2004, I was wondering what has come the closest to Opti-Coat at a more reasonable price?

The Guz
07-05-2019, 12:41 PM
From Optimum the only consumer coating available is Gloss Coat.

Setec Astronomy
07-05-2019, 01:22 PM
From Optimum the only consumer coating available is Gloss Coat.

I`m not sure that`s answering the question (although you are accurate).

If the OP is talking about OC 2.0, that was a "watered down" version of Opti-Coat Pro (depending on who was answering the question). As I understand it, Opti-Coat Pro is a SiC coating, while Gloss-Coat and all other consumer coatings are SiO2 (Optimum refers to Gloss-Coat as a "hybrid" coating).

Guz, I think you have tried more coatings than anyone, I presume you used OC 2.0 in the day--what coating available today do you think the OP would be happy with if the only one he used previously was OC 2.0?

Accumulator
07-05-2019, 03:05 PM
...[I wonder]..what coating available today.. the OP would be happy with if the only one he used previously was OC 2.0?
I was wondering that exact same thing when I found my GlossCoat (which did work well for me on wheels) had gone bad. I bought 22ple VM1, but haven`t used it and kinda feel Buyer`s Remorse as it seems like the answer to a Q that I`m not asking. BUT for somebody who wants all the features of a (good) coating, including marring-resistance, I keep thinking there must be *some* coating that ticks all the boxes...just don`t know what it could be. I hope someone has a good, definitive answer to this one so BCGreen can buy the right thing (the first time).

The Guz
07-05-2019, 04:07 PM
I`m not sure that`s answering the question (although you are accurate).

If the OP is talking about OC 2.0, that was a "watered down" version of Opti-Coat Pro (depending on who was answering the question). As I understand it, Opti-Coat Pro is a SiC coating, while Gloss-Coat and all other consumer coatings are SiO2 (Optimum refers to Gloss-Coat as a "hybrid" coating).

Guz, I think you have tried more coatings than anyone, I presume you used OC 2.0 in the day--what coating available today do you think the OP would be happy with if the only one he used previously was OC 2.0?

Gloss Coat is and SiC/SiO2 hybrid coating. If the op wants to stay with optimum then Gloss Coat is the only product available from them.

Each person has different environment so not all coatings will perform the same. For me I would say Cquartz 3.0. Much better than Gloss Coat.

I am 50/50 on 22ple VX Pro2 at the moment.


I was wondering that exact same thing when I found my GlossCoat (which did work well for me on wheels) had gone bad. I bought 22ple VM1, but haven`t used it and kinda feel Buyer`s Remorse as it seems like the answer to a Q that I`m not asking.

You won’t know unless you try.

bcgreen
07-05-2019, 05:23 PM
I`m not sure that`s answering the question (although you are accurate).

If the OP is talking about OC 2.0, that was a "watered down" version of Opti-Coat Pro (depending on who was answering the question). As I understand it, Opti-Coat Pro is a SiC coating, while Gloss-Coat and all other consumer coatings are SiO2 (Optimum refers to Gloss-Coat as a "hybrid" coating).

Guz, I think you have tried more coatings than anyone, I presume you used OC 2.0 in the day--what coating available today do you think the OP would be happy with if the only one he used previously was OC 2.0?

No OC pro in 2004.

bcgreen
07-05-2019, 05:26 PM
I was wondering that exact same thing when I found my GlossCoat (which did work well for me on wheels) had gone bad. I bought 22ple VM1, but haven`t used it and kinda feel Buyer`s Remorse as it seems like the answer to a Q that I`m not asking. BUT for somebody who wants all the features of a (good) coating, including marring-resistance, I keep thinking there must be *some* coating that ticks all the boxes...just don`t know what it could be. I hope someone has a good, definitive answer to this one so BCGreen can buy the right thing (the first time).

You`re the one to recommend Opti-Coat to me in 2004 or 2005.

bcgreen
07-05-2019, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=The Guz;2161567]Gloss Coat is and SiC/SiO2 hybrid coating. If the op wants to stay with optimum then Gloss Coat is the only product available from them.


Not wanting to necessarily stick with Optimum, I just mentioned it because it was such a wonderful product, especially on my then extremely soft black paint. After washing, the vehicle was just awesome to look at, so nice that it looked as if I spent a couple of days doing a full detail, and all I did was just wash and dried.

Setec Astronomy
07-05-2019, 08:09 PM
You`re the one to recommend Opti-Coat to me in 2004 or 2005.

I`m pretty sure Opti-Coat didn`t come out until well after 2007. If you want Opti-Coat you can go to an authorized installer--but it`s expensive.

https://www.autopia.org/forums/car-detailing-product-discussion/157479-grand-finale-optimum-opti-coating-durability-test-review.html?highlight=grand+finale+Optimum

rlmccarty2000
07-05-2019, 08:56 PM
Opti-Coat always got rave reviews in the older threads. Gloss Coat gets no love from any detailers. I wonder why Optimum doesn’t come out with a consumer Opti-Coat? Are they doing that much business on the Pro side that they don’t need to sell anything to consumers? Seems like they are losing market share.

Setec Astronomy
07-05-2019, 09:51 PM
Opti-Coat always got rave reviews in the older threads. Gloss Coat gets no love from any detailers. I wonder why Optimum doesn’t come out with a consumer Opti-Coat? Are they doing that much business on the Pro side that they don’t need to sell anything to consumers? Seems like they are losing market share.

Hi Bob...they had a consumer Opti-Coat, it was Opti-Coat 2.0. Apparently the pro installer lobby in Dr. G`s ear got him to kill it because unlicensed installers were installing "the same thing". OC 2.0 was replaced by Gloss-Coat. It was a sad day for some of us.

Remember, Dr. G comes from the paint business, he has always been after the mfr./dealer market, so I`d say to some extent the consumer market for Optimum takes a back seat to manufacturers, dealers, and detailing shops.

bcgreen
07-06-2019, 10:13 AM
I`m pretty sure Opti-Coat didn`t come out until well after 2007. If you want Opti-Coat you can go to an authorized installer--but it`s expensive.

https://www.autopia.org/forums/car-detailing-product-discussion/157479-grand-finale-optimum-opti-coating-durability-test-review.html?highlight=grand+finale+Optimum

You`re probably right with that date, all I know it was pretty soon after purchasing the vehicle.

Accumulator
07-06-2019, 10:57 AM
You won’t know..[whether you like the 22ple vm1].. unless you try.

Yeah..problem is that the wheels I`d planned to coat with it would be a *huge* job to do. It sure was with the OptiCoat (and I don`t mean just a few hours), and that was before my, uhm...new normal vision :(

I`ll find *something* to use it on, or at least I hope I get around to it before *that* one goes bad too.


You`re the one to recommend Opti-Coat to me in 2004 or 2005.

It seemed like a great solution, and I`ve always remembered that "Infinities have soft clear" every time I`m tempted by an old M or Q sedan.