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Manix
05-18-2017, 03:16 AM
My car door seal trip rubbers that go all around door frame always stick to the door jam paint that they rest against after it rains mostly. After a wash I always dry the water out there, but in the rain it can be worse. Sometimes its sticks well enough a child wouldn`t be able to open the door easy. I`m trying to prevent the paint from being damaged. i can`t seem to find any new replacement rubbers as my car is too old & second hand rubbers might do it again. The door jam paint looks reasonable condition considering its 16yrs old, the clear looks intact.

I have tried a coat of silicone lube over the rubbers but it did nothing, after a week it rained & they stuck to the paint.

I tried a coat of Rejex LSP & it did nothing.

The rubbers are always clean & I even gave them a clean with alcohol. It seems even a small amount of water causes them to stick. They must be completely dry.

Looking to prevent the sticking & if there is a product that might do it?

Ronkh
05-18-2017, 04:07 AM
Try gummi pflefge

Angus
05-18-2017, 04:36 AM
Gummi pflefe or 303 Rubber Seal Protectant are good regular maintenance options. Krytox GPL 205 Grease is also great and in your case maybe a better option. I use Krytox grease to lubricate the rubber seals on my convertibles hardtop - last a very long time and keeps the seals nice and flexible. A little goes a long way.

RTexasF
05-18-2017, 08:34 AM
This also works extremely well. Order online or some Honda dealers stock it.

https://www.ebay.com/p/?iid=252590423217&&&chn=ps

Poorboy
05-18-2017, 10:58 AM
We used to have that problem with our 13 year old van doors and it did take paint .. we used a few coats of Trim Restorer and it never happened again :)

MattPersman
05-18-2017, 11:32 AM
You can get some Sil Glyde from a parts store like napa and try it for the $ it`s worth trying.


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Accumulator
05-18-2017, 01:40 PM
Manix- Your experiences make that Rejex sound like the worst LSP ever.

AFTER cleaning the seals *THOROUGHLY* with Griot`s Rubber Prep (and no, I don`t know of anything else that`d be as good... including IPA), I`d use the Gummi Pflege on the seals (let it dry thoroughly before closing the doors) and (after proper prep of course) a better LSP (e.g., FK1000P) on the painted surfaces that the seals contact.

Might need to do the seals over and over and over again...I lost count of how many times I did it to the `00 Tahoe and the `93 Audi, both of which had really dried-out seals, but they eventually stopped soaking it up (and just drying out again within a few days or a week) and they`ve stayed nice ever since with very infrequent reapplications. Don`t give up after just a dozen applications if it seems they could still stand more...at that point you might just be getting started!

The Gummi Pflege from Wurth costs a lot more, but is just a bit "cleaner", and IMO incrementally better over all, but not enough so that most people would ever notice. Both it and the 1Z/NextZett (is that the right name now?) do dry cleanly; no dirt-retention nor staining if you rub against them.

I don`t hate on silicone/etc. lubes or grease but those`re never as clean as I`d want for something that might contact paint, glass or clothing.

And, heh heh...you guys who act like a 16YO car is *old*...

davidc
05-18-2017, 03:29 PM
Manix- And, heh heh...you guys who act like a 16YO car is *old*...

Yeah, what`s with that anyway. My truck is 18 years and the roadrunner 47. Both are pretty much prestine and paid for, just the way I like it.

Dave

carnage
05-18-2017, 04:33 PM
I don`t mean to steal anyone thread. Does anyone know a good rubber door seal cleaner beside the Griots mention above? I already have 1Z Plastic Cleaner and D101 not sure if these products are good at cleaning door seals.

Accumulator
05-19-2017, 12:12 PM
carnage- How does the 1Z work? Guessing "not so well" since you`re asking for recommendations...

Not interested in the Griot`s Rubber Prep? IMO it`s so good that everybody oughta have it on the shelf.

carnage
05-19-2017, 05:22 PM
carnage- How does the 1Z work? Guessing "not so well" since you`re asking for recommendations...

Not interested in the Griot`s Rubber Prep? IMO it`s so good that everybody oughta have it on the shelf.


I never tried the 1Z or D101 on door seal, I`m not sure if these products can safely clean door seal with extended use.

NoWayOut
05-20-2017, 10:31 AM
Try some Vaseline on the rubber seal. We use that trick in the north east to keep the seal from freezing the door shut.

Accumulator
05-20-2017, 12:37 PM
Try some Vaseline on the rubber seal. We use that trick in the north east to keep the seal from freezing the door shut.
I use Vaseline for all sorts of stuff, but it`s *WAY* too slimy/messy for use on a vehicle. It retains dirt and then you brush against it and it`s a mess.

Accumulator
05-20-2017, 12:38 PM
I never tried the 1Z or D101 on door seal, I`m not sure if these products can safely clean door seal with extended use.

Would not be very extended use as you`d prep them once and then maintain with something like the Gummi Pflege (which I`ve used, with zero issues, for decades).

Accumulator
05-20-2017, 12:40 PM
I`m surprised this is such an issue. Sure, *NOW* my vehicles are mostly garaged, but I parked outside 24/7/52 for decades and with minimal maintenance to the seals (Wurth Rubber Care, the Gummi Pflege) and properly prepped/LSPed doorjambs, it was simply *NEVER* a problem.

EDIT: Oh sheesh, the above sounds all judgmental...like, "I don`t have this problem so what`s wrong with you?!?" and/but I really DO NOT intend it that way. Just can`t figure out why it`s happening...do the hood/trunk freeze shut too? (of course, I do those the same as the doors.)

Products like whatever`s in the Gummi Pflege sticks/Wurth Rubber Care/etc. just don`t stick to any of the waxes/sealants I`ve used. Don`t leave stains or any kind of mess either. Easy thing that we oughta be doing anyhow to keep the seals healthy (they get hard to find as vehicles get older).

And maybe my sorta-Autopain detailing of the jambs factors in...smoothly polished and well-LSPed surfaces seem less likely to have issues like this.