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SwedishRider
07-04-2016, 10:08 AM
Interesting recent article from Jalopnik`s Doug DeMuro on auto detailing. He doesn`t seem to be a fan of the hobby/profession/obsession. :o

Check out the article here: How Crazy Is Too Crazy When It Comes To Washing Your Cars? (http://jalopnik.com/how-crazy-is-too-crazy-when-it-comes-to-washing-your-ca-1782948713)

JBM
07-04-2016, 10:51 AM
Who is he?

He sounds British....

Ronkh
07-04-2016, 10:53 AM
The car community is absolutely obsessed with detailing automobiles. The car community lives on detailing automobiles. The car community thrives on the cleanliness of automobiles, to the point where I have been to cars and coffee with people who discuss nothing other than whether or not a car has swirl marks in the paint. “Look at that F430 stick shift!” I would say. “Yeah,” the person would reply. “But look at the swirl marks.”

JaredPointer
07-04-2016, 11:22 AM
He has a point. I used to spend a lot of time worrying and fretting about spiderweb, swirls, etc to the point where it was just overwhelming. Maybe that`s part of my personality (i.e. getting overly obsessed with activities), but it got to a point where it was just not fun anymore. So what if I have some spider webbing? Why do I need to spend 4-5 hours rubbing and touching an inanimate object whose sole purpose is to get me from one point to another and will definitely get dirty in doing so? I can spend those 4-5 hours with my kiddos, my family, my friends.... I`m not saying I take my vehicles through the auto car washes nowadays, I`m just saying I don`t spend hours of time and hundreds of dollars on it anymore. And in all honesty, my vehicles look better than 90% (ok, I`m ballparking a stat here) of every other one I see. There`s a point of diminishing returns with this stuff. When I`m spending hours more time to get a fraction of a percentage better result, it`s just not worth it. I do enjoy a clean car, but when it`s all said and done, that`s all it is - a car. A way to get back and forth. Now, with that said, I suppose I have to relent to the fact that we`re all different and that some people place an immeasurable amount of affection and worth on these depreciating hunks of metal and plastic, and to them they`re more than just cars. I was there at one time, I`m just not anymore.

Ronkh
07-04-2016, 11:26 AM
He has a point. I used to spend a lot of time worrying and fretting about spiderweb, swirls, etc to the point where it was just overwhelming. Maybe that`s part of my personality (i.e. getting overly obsessed with activities), but it got to a point where it was just not fun anymore. So what if I have some spider webbing? Why do I need to spend 4-5 hours rubbing and touching an inanimate object whose sole purpose is to get me from one point to another and will definitely get dirty in doing so? I can spend those 4-5 hours with my kiddos, my family, my friends.... I`m not saying I take my vehicles through the auto car washes nowadays, I`m just saying I don`t spend hours of time and hundreds of dollars on it anymore. And in all honesty, my vehicles look better than 90% (ok, I`m ballparking a stat here) of every other one I see. There`s a point of diminishing returns with this stuff. When I`m spending hours more time to get a fraction of a percentage better result, it`s just not worth it. I do enjoy a clean car, but when it`s all said and done, that`s all it is - a car. A way to get back and forth. Now, with that said, I suppose I have to relent to the fact that we`re all different and that some people place an immeasurable amount of affection and worth on these depreciating hunks of metal and plastic, and to them they`re more than just cars. I was there at one time, I`m just not anymore.

But what about us with no lives ?!?!?!?!

Angus
07-04-2016, 11:28 AM
I`ve been following Doug on Jalopnik for a few years and am not at all surprised by his comments. Doug buys a fancy (used) car for exactly one year and writes columns about owning/driving said car.

JaredPointer
07-04-2016, 11:33 AM
But what about us with no lives ?!?!?!?!

I guess my answer would be something along the lines of doing something with life that has substance. When I`m dead and gone, that car I spent all that time on is going to be in someone else`s hands going thru the auto wash. If I spend that time doing things with and for other people, that leaves a little bit more impact in the world after I`m gone.

I understand you`re joking, but I`m honestly trying to give you an answer that puts into light just how far down "detailing" is on my priority list. No offense intended. If we, as a society, spent a little more time involved with each other as opposed to being so self-immersed in _______________, then we might possibly make our little slice of the universe a better place to be.

richy
07-04-2016, 12:59 PM
Now this is a funny quote:

" suddenly the idea of going for a drive strikes me, much like the idea of “scratching yourself” might strike you."

LMAO!!

Accumulator
07-04-2016, 12:59 PM
He talks critically about his pal spending "four hours" to wash multiple cars...shudder...I can seldom wash *one* car properly in that time. I pity that Aston Martin, and its next owner.

Even the vehicles I just "use like tools/drive the wheels off `em" are basically marring-free now that I`ve figured out how to wash properly, and mechanics never get their hands dirty on *my* undercarriages or engine compartments (note that the cleanliness allows me to spot little problems before they become serious, *before* it goes in for service, fewer surprises that way). I don`t think I "obsess" over this stuff, I just treat my cars the way I try to treat everything else in my life- properly. I put swirls/etc. in the same category as wrinkled clothing, a unkempt home, or poor diction- namely an indication that something isn`t being done properly.

And keeping my vehicles (my version of) Autopian doesn`t detract from my other interests and activities. I really do believe my line about "Life is not a car show" so I don`t wash a vehicle unless I really consider it "dirty", I reLSP a few times a year at most, and I basically *never* polish. Sorta funny to me- people whose cars need detailed think I spend all my time detailing; people whose dogs don`t behave as mine do think I spend all my time training dogs; people who aren`t in my physical condition think I spend all my time exercising; people who don`t...etc. etc. Yet I spend *hours* doing things that I truly value while still getting all the "chores" (including detailing) done when they need doing.

[Heck] I spend a lot more time posting here than I do detailing!

Stokdgs
07-04-2016, 02:48 PM
He talks critically about his pal spending "four hours" to wash multiple cars...shudder...I can seldom wash *one* car properly in that time. I pity that Aston Martin, and its next owner.

Even the vehicles I just "use like tools/drive the wheels off `em" are basically marring-free now that I`ve figured out how to wash properly, and mechanics never get their hands dirty on *my* undercarriages or engine compartments (note that the cleanliness allows me to spot little problems before they become serious, *before* it goes in for service, fewer surprises that way). I don`t think I "obsess" over this stuff, I just treat my cars the way I try to treat everything else in my life- properly. I put swirls/etc. in the same category as wrinkled clothing, a unkempt home, or poor diction- namely an indication that something isn`t being done properly.

And keeping my vehicles (my version of) Autopian doesn`t detract from my other interests and activities. I really do believe my line about "Life is not a car show" so I don`t wash a vehicle unless I really consider it "dirty", I reLSP a few times a year at most, and I basically *never* polish. Sorta funny to me- people whose cars need detailed think I spend all my time detailing; people whose dogs don`t behave as mine do think I spend all my time training dogs; people who aren`t in my physical condition think I spend all my time exercising; people who don`t...etc. etc. Yet I spend *hours* doing things that I truly value while still getting all the "chores" (including detailing) done when they need doing.

[Heck] I spend a lot more time posting here than I do detailing!

Well said, Accumulator !
Dan F

rlmccarty2000
07-04-2016, 04:21 PM
You sure my wife didn`t write that?

skibik
07-05-2016, 09:56 AM
I was one of those obsessed people the first first 2 years of ownership of my black Camaro. Last year my obsession started to turn back to normal. Bad thing this year I am at the point I don`t even care anymore what it looks like. I think I basically got burned out trying to keep it looking nice the first 2 years. I definitely have the boxes full of products that show for it that will never get used up in my life time. It is funny my last car got a washing maybe twice a month, only time it seen wax was if it added when I was at the touchless. The car was 8 years old when I traded it off for this one and it still look like clean and new outside of the usual fine swirl marks. Funny this car has seen more polish, wax and detail products then most all of my previous vehicles I have owned combined.

garbledwords
07-05-2016, 11:44 AM
Bottom line is, I like driving a clean car. As mentioned above, it like wearing clean clothes. I spend 2.1 - 3 hours a wash every 2 to four weeks, depending if it has rained or snowed. It`s not the rain or snow that get her in need of a wash, its the road spray. I like clean, shiny cars and love the random comments I get when I drive. But different strokes for different people.

Accumulator
07-05-2016, 04:14 PM
You sure my wife didn`t write that?

Heh heh...I know *my* wife didn`t write it as Accumulatorette is far more eloquent.

JSFM35X
07-06-2016, 03:49 AM
I just need to live above the 90 percent line. I`d say unless one of you guys is around. I`m the best kept ride at any given venue around here with almost no exception. And it`s exhausting !


He has a point. I used to spend a lot of time worrying and fretting about spiderweb, swirls, etc to the point where it was just overwhelming. Maybe that`s part of my personality (i.e. getting overly obsessed with activities), but it got to a point where it was just not fun anymore. So what if I have some spider webbing? Why do I need to spend 4-5 hours rubbing and touching an inanimate object whose sole purpose is to get me from one point to another and will definitely get dirty in doing so? I can spend those 4-5 hours with my kiddos, my family, my friends.... I`m not saying I take my vehicles through the auto car washes nowadays, I`m just saying I don`t spend hours of time and hundreds of dollars on it anymore. And in all honesty, my vehicles look better than 90% (ok, I`m ballparking a stat here) of every other one I see. There`s a point of diminishing returns with this stuff. When I`m spending hours more time to get a fraction of a percentage better result, it`s just not worth it. I do enjoy a clean car, but when it`s all said and done, that`s all it is - a car. A way to get back and forth. Now, with that said, I suppose I have to relent to the fact that we`re all different and that some people place an immeasurable amount of affection and worth on these depreciating hunks of metal and plastic, and to them they`re more than just cars. I was there at one time, I`m just not anymore.