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Matth3w
04-20-2014, 04:28 PM
This has probably been asked, but if I bought this is it fairly difficult to damage the paint? I`m mainly looking to apply waxes and whatnot.

R3Detailing
04-20-2014, 04:53 PM
if you put too much downward pressure on any DA machine, the pad will stop rotating and it will just vibrate in place


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you`ll be okay :)

Accumulator
04-20-2014, 05:03 PM
Matt3w- The only real worries are overheating/burning the paint (*VERY* unlikely unless you do something drastic while using 3-4" pads) or taking off too much clear ( also very unlikely if working on a newer vehicle).` You could, however, also run into trouble if you let the pad contact trim that shouldn`t be abraded, so generally` you oughta keep off the trim unless you have a specific reason to "polish" it.


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When applying stuff like wax, you shouldn`t have any trouble at all, but again, you might not want to let the pad bump into trim/emplems/etc.` Not likely to do damage, but I`d rather err on the side of caution unless/until you know it`s just not an issue.

Jesstzn
04-20-2014, 06:42 PM
Funny thing... I never use it to apply waxes/sealants ... A) not really a time saver. B) wastes too much product . C) wont get into all the small places so you have to do a lot by hand anyway. D) waxing is good exercise.

imported_WhyteWizard
04-20-2014, 07:09 PM
This has probably been asked, but if I bought this is it fairly difficult to damage the paint? I`m mainly looking to apply waxes and whatnot.



http://www.autopia.org/forum/topic/133183-terrible-paint-polishing-not-my-assessment-but-interesting/ (`http://www.autopia.org/forum/topic/133183-terrible-paint-polishing-not-my-assessment-but-interesting/`)


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This guy tried to do damage with a few different machines and had a hard time getting it done.

Junebug
04-21-2014, 10:10 AM
I dissagree on the applying wax by PC, to me, it`s a time saver, gets a nice thin - even layer of wax on the paint. The trick is B&S red pads. But, I do a lot of big 3/4 ton, 4 door trucks and F... waxing those damn things by hand!

Accumulator
04-21-2014, 12:10 PM
I *have* damaged paint with a PC, and it was the older version too...4" green Cyclo/Edge pad, 3m 05937 Machine Glaze(!).` Just got too aggressive, thinking "eh, I`ll never do damage with this mild stuff!".` Famous last words!` Note that I`ve never done comparable`damage with a *rotary* despite getting *VERY* aggressive with those.`Years ago at the St. Louis Autopian G-T-G, a pal of mine damaged a Benz using my PC with a Meguiar`s 7006 pad...yep, a 6" pad on a PC!` So it *can* happen, but it`s still not too likely.


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On the LSP-via-Machine, I go both ways.` I can do it faster by hand if you factor in getting out/putting away the machine.` But the motions of moving the machine around are very different from the motions of LSPing by hand and I prefer the former.` Yeah, still gotta do a few spots by hand, but not that many once you`re familiar with machine-LSPing the particular vehicle in question.``By machine, `I can get an especially`even application, but I fair better with waxes than with sealants, just can`t quite get as thin an application with a sealant using a machine and I end up`wasting product.` But with waxes, I do like being able to "work the product" (especially with M16, the "paste wax that turns liquid") and IMO the machine is *much* better for that.` I do prefer the Cyclo over the PC/GG/etc. for LSPing, but eh, that`s just me.


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If you`ve never tried M16 via machine you really oughta give it a go.` I do think I get a better (OK, *slightly* better...) end-result, especially if I use a little QD (generally Griot`s SpeedShine) to add a bit of pseudo-spitshine to the process.`I almost *enjoy* doing my wife`s A8 with M16 via Cyclo.` Almost.

Quiksilver5882
04-21-2014, 04:25 PM
You need to watch this video.

http://youtu.be/2XAqpOe9Zt4

And

http://youtu.be/y7A5BCCb7Gg