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P-nut
01-22-2014, 01:37 AM
I`m trying to decide on a new LSP to try out on my silver 911 garage queen.` I only drive it 1k-2k miles a year, on nice summer days, so protection and durability aren`t big concerns.


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So far I`ve been using P21S Concours Carnauba, which I like very much, but I`m thinking of trying a sealant.` I`ve selected the following options to consider:


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1.` Zaino Z-2


2.` HD Poxy


3.` Optimum Opti-seal


4.` BF Wet Diamond


5.` Stick with the P21S carnauba


6.` Any of the first 4, topped by the carnauba


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I`m after a wet, glossy finish that makes the silver pop, without much regard to durability or protection.` Any thoughts on these (or something else)?

Guru17
01-22-2014, 02:09 AM
I would say Z2 or BFWD for a silver, but I doubt they will give you the wetness. For that you need to top up with a Carnauba.

LawrenceSA
01-22-2014, 03:34 AM
I have used Pete`s 53 on silver before and it left the paint looking quite wet. Here is the link to the click n brag which currently sits on Autogeek.... if this is not allowed, mods please remove, or if need be, I can copy it over onto this site?


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http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/65661-reflex-silver-vw-tiguan-detailed-lawrence.html (`http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/65661-reflex-silver-vw-tiguan-detailed-lawrence.html`)

bunkeroo26
01-22-2014, 08:24 AM
I used Optimum spray wax then did Opti Seal on silver,

It was very easy application and looked good..

The company then days the wax transfers above the seal.

WillWashesCars
01-22-2014, 10:35 AM
Out of what you have listed, my favorite would be Opti-Seal on silver paint. It has sort of a gloss "wrapped" look to it. Second to that would be Opti-Coat but I am not sure that you want to go that route.


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http://xclusiveautoworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Detailing-Long-Island-460x345.jpg (`http://xclusiveautoworks.com/audi-s5-opti-coat-long-island/`)

Scottwax
01-23-2014, 10:59 PM
Opti-Seal by itself of what you`ve listed. I really don`t understand making more work for myself topping a sealant. If I like the look of a wax better, I`ll just use that wax and apply it as needed.`


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Carnauba choice would be Clearkote Carnauba Moose or Collinite 476.

Accumulator
01-24-2014, 12:30 PM
Note that I`ve had Collinite 476S "mute the flake" in cases where the prep wasn`t 100%.` I put that in scare-quotes because I don`t consider it a general characteristic of 476S, but it really did do it in that situation.` A repolishing of the same paint and a reapplication of the same 476S solved the problem.


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Silver can be tricky if that last 1% of appearance diff really matters to ya.` LSPs I like on one silver look terrible to me on another silver.` Not that anybody else would ever notice...

Swanicyouth
01-24-2014, 12:34 PM
Stick with the P21S. You won`t get much better than that.

Meticulous
01-25-2014, 12:24 PM
I know this wasn`t mentioned but DG 501/601 makes silver and white look spectacular, currently have it on both my cars and use it on customers cars too. The reason is it is a chemical paint cleaner and sealant all in one. What I would do is use DG 501/601 as a base, the 601 flash cures the sealant so it can be topped immediately (dry to a haze, then remove) and then P21S to top it.


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I haven`t had the opportunity to use HD POxy yet due to this great weather, but I have read and heard it is one of the best looking sealants.


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Here are some pics of DG 501.


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Before


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https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/228244_109941599173538_1754194287_n.jpg


https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/484255_109942152506816_1403717884_n.jpg


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1.5 months old in NYC winter


https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1533883_245560092278354_1412489078_n.jpg


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My 13 Durango RT


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Accumulator
01-25-2014, 01:52 PM
SwanicYouth- Just to show how opinions can differ, I hated P21s *so* much on my sorta-silver Jag ("Rhodium metallic") that I stripped it off and reapplied the usual Souveran!

P-nut
01-26-2014, 02:41 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions.` I`ve read a bunch about the different DG sealant offerings, and am considering trying 111.` I already have some 105 that I used on a different car.` But, I`m thinking I might like the opti-seal.` I remember liking Z8 as a topper so I might try topping the OOS with it.` Whatever I go with, I`ll divide up my hood and do a comparison.

jlb85
01-27-2014, 09:18 AM
I think z8 >> optiseal. It is wax-safe, too. You can`t go wrong with any of those wax choices, though. Gotta love not needing to use anything but a wax :) You could splurge and get some Supernatural, or a sample tub of Zymol Vintage or something (they have kits of 3 1-ounce samples for around $700) ;)

If you go with a sealant, try some dodo juice red mist as a final spay (or the z8). DJRM will strip wax due to its high solvent content, but works great over sealants.

P-nut
01-27-2014, 04:01 PM
I have a hard time taking any product line seriously with a ridiculous name like Dodo Juice.` No matter how good their products may be, I`ll never find out. ;)

fdresq4
01-27-2014, 08:00 PM
Opti-Seal. Have it on our silver CR-V.

imported_agentf1
02-03-2014, 09:00 AM
On Silver I would go with option #1, Zaino Z2p. `I think Zaino is much better than all the other products you mentioned on colors like Silver because Zaino is more reflective or something. `It makes those colors that don`t really pop on its own like Silver and white really stand out.


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It is also relatively easy to use and maintain providing you take the effort to properly prep the finish and make sure it is wax and oil free. `You can also give it even more pop by adding Z8 or Clear Seal and Z8 on top of it. `These two products are also excellent for maintaining your finish.


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M-D, you really have to take your before and after photo`s with the sun in the same position. `Looks like the sun is rising in one pic and setting in the other. `I know it is hard as hours pass from the time you start it and finish it. `I usually turn the car around and take a pic of the same side in the sun on both. `The car does look great. `


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I know this wasn`t mentioned but DG 501/601 makes silver and white look spectacular, currently have it on both my cars and use it on customers cars too. The reason is it is a chemical paint cleaner and sealant all in one. What I would do is use DG 501/601 as a base, the 601 flash cures the sealant so it can be topped immediately (dry to a haze, then remove) and then P21S to top it.


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I haven`t had the opportunity to use HD POxy yet due to this great weather, but I have read and heard it is one of the best looking sealants.


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Here are some pics of DG 501.


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Before


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https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/228244_109941599173538_1754194287_n.jpg


https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/484255_109942152506816_1403717884_n.jpg


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1.5 months old in NYC winter


https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1533883_245560092278354_1412489078_n.jpg


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My 13 Durango RT


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https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/486664_167246643443033_1092243502_n.jpghttps://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/970551_167246620109702_1932041266_n.jpg