imported_torauma
12-23-2012, 05:03 PM
I had the privileged to detail this very badly swirled, oxidized, water spotted, 1995 red blazer. I say privileged because i got to try out some new products that i have been meaning to put to the test MENZERNA FG400, HD Advanced Polish,Harbour freight da polisher.
So, to begin I kinda did a mini review/comparison of FG400 and my goto m105 to see if it really gave me the cut i needed with various different pads.
Before anyone gets to excited about a great long review about these two products i have to say i am terrible at taking pictures and showing the variance
in correction and haze was very difficult to capture so you will have to go on mostly on what i say, :( although i did take quite a few pictures.
This care was horrid you really had to be there to see how bad it was.
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf901855c.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf901855c.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpse233e701.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpse233e701.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps5d7c4c3c.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps5d7c4c3c.jpg.html)
The clay after 1 tiny panel
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps660e70ae.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps660e70ae.jpg.html)
Condition of the paint after claying :nervous2:
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsc2a63981.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsc2a63981.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps5bcee1cd.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps5bcee1cd.jpg.html)
Time to get to work!
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps04c0ddf3.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps04c0ddf3.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps9c45bfc4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps9c45bfc4.jpg.html)
Remember this !
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg.html)
After, now this is what i meant it looks last step ready but i defiantly needed a follow up.
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps5dc23aed.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps5dc23aed.jpg.html)
Now for the old workhorse
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps79b383e5.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps79b383e5.jpg.html)
as you can see alittle more noticeable haze and some rids remain
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpse7c800ae.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpse7c800ae.jpg.html)
Now orange pads
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps1274a99f.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps1274a99f.jpg.html)
After, now agian bad pictures but it finished very well much better than microfiber pad but alot more rids remained but majority swirls were gone
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps15c68d6e.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps15c68d6e.jpg.html)
m105 orange pad
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps560905a1.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps560905a1.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps7cc5b39d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps7cc5b39d.jpg.html)
Summary fg400 vs m105
Fg400 is now my new goto compound cut is about the same as m105 maybe a bit more but its so smooth when buffing goes along way very little dust finish was great for the cut it gives and wipeoff even when worked for along time was easy especially in comparison to m105. Now dont get the wrong idea i love m105 used it for a very long time and its still today one of the best compouds on the market not to mention its cheap! but this new fg400 just feels more advanced i love this stuff!
Summary harbor freight da polisher
I bought this machine because my beloved gg 6inch da broke :( and i heard about this polisher on this Forum. I read it was comparable to the hd polisher (cant comment if it is or not because i have never tried the hd polisher) and it was local and cheap. Im going to get straight to the point is it better than the gg6inch?
no I would say its more comparable to the pc 7424xp (in my opinion a little better) which i also have. The lack in torque is something you definitely feel i can stop the pad with a little effort but was it worth it ? YES! every penny this was something along the lines of 60$ with a 2 year warrantie and it feels very quality built (time will tell) it feels very solid if i were trying to get someone new into polishing paint i would tell them to pick this machine up no question! you just cant beat this price.
summary HD advanced polish
Now I didnt take any comparison pictures but i can tell you with all honesty this is the single best polish i have ever used ! 3d has a huge winner with this product! cut is a little less than m205 but the workability the finish and wipe off i have even used this in full California sun and this stuff just kept going ! its just great im going to order more of this stuff very soon. :smile1:
Now back to the car
here are some more swirly pictures
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps89fcd6fb.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps89fcd6fb.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps2b09669f.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps2b09669f.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps8879aece.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps8879aece.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsa9d315bb.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsa9d315bb.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps3927918c.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps3927918c.jpg.html)
50/50 after just fg400
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsb37f986d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsb37f986d.jpg.html)
Pictures just after fg400 and ipa wipedown you can see slight haze
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf857524d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf857524d.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps74422d13.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps74422d13.jpg.html)
before
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps04bf8a5b.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps04bf8a5b.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps62867d7a.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps62867d7a.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps0c388b44.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps0c388b44.jpg.html)
AFTER!
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsd54024a5.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsd54024a5.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsb45677d2.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsb45677d2.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsdfca66d7.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsdfca66d7.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps3ff395a2.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps3ff395a2.jpg.html)
FINISHED!! (sorry some pictures it was sprinkling a bit ignore the tiny water droplets :smile1: )
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsbee3e414.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsbee3e414.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps50652b5a.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps50652b5a.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps6e702170.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps6e702170.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsa37b9412.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsa37b9412.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps0c927cc4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps0c927cc4.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsbd359d8b.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsbd359d8b.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsfbd28011.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsfbd28011.jpg.html)
Pictures after rain
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf4a03c3d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf4a03c3d.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsfde60253.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsfde60253.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf0adac77.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf0adac77.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps1f0b72a5.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps1f0b72a5.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpse4b3bb77.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpse4b3bb77.jpg.html)
Ok im done thank you for reading and i hope it wasn`t to long and boring for anybody and i apologize for any of the spelling/grammar mistakes i may have made/missed.
I hope you all have a nice Christmas ! :smile1:
So, to begin I kinda did a mini review/comparison of FG400 and my goto m105 to see if it really gave me the cut i needed with various different pads.
Before anyone gets to excited about a great long review about these two products i have to say i am terrible at taking pictures and showing the variance
in correction and haze was very difficult to capture so you will have to go on mostly on what i say, :( although i did take quite a few pictures.
This care was horrid you really had to be there to see how bad it was.
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf901855c.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf901855c.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpse233e701.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpse233e701.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps5d7c4c3c.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps5d7c4c3c.jpg.html)
The clay after 1 tiny panel
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps660e70ae.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps660e70ae.jpg.html)
Condition of the paint after claying :nervous2:
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsc2a63981.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsc2a63981.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps5bcee1cd.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps5bcee1cd.jpg.html)
Time to get to work!
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps04c0ddf3.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps04c0ddf3.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps9c45bfc4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps9c45bfc4.jpg.html)
Remember this !
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps6cab2db4.jpg.html)
After, now this is what i meant it looks last step ready but i defiantly needed a follow up.
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps5dc23aed.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps5dc23aed.jpg.html)
Now for the old workhorse
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps79b383e5.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps79b383e5.jpg.html)
as you can see alittle more noticeable haze and some rids remain
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpse7c800ae.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpse7c800ae.jpg.html)
Now orange pads
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps1274a99f.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps1274a99f.jpg.html)
After, now agian bad pictures but it finished very well much better than microfiber pad but alot more rids remained but majority swirls were gone
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps15c68d6e.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps15c68d6e.jpg.html)
m105 orange pad
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps560905a1.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps560905a1.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps7cc5b39d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps7cc5b39d.jpg.html)
Summary fg400 vs m105
Fg400 is now my new goto compound cut is about the same as m105 maybe a bit more but its so smooth when buffing goes along way very little dust finish was great for the cut it gives and wipeoff even when worked for along time was easy especially in comparison to m105. Now dont get the wrong idea i love m105 used it for a very long time and its still today one of the best compouds on the market not to mention its cheap! but this new fg400 just feels more advanced i love this stuff!
Summary harbor freight da polisher
I bought this machine because my beloved gg 6inch da broke :( and i heard about this polisher on this Forum. I read it was comparable to the hd polisher (cant comment if it is or not because i have never tried the hd polisher) and it was local and cheap. Im going to get straight to the point is it better than the gg6inch?
no I would say its more comparable to the pc 7424xp (in my opinion a little better) which i also have. The lack in torque is something you definitely feel i can stop the pad with a little effort but was it worth it ? YES! every penny this was something along the lines of 60$ with a 2 year warrantie and it feels very quality built (time will tell) it feels very solid if i were trying to get someone new into polishing paint i would tell them to pick this machine up no question! you just cant beat this price.
summary HD advanced polish
Now I didnt take any comparison pictures but i can tell you with all honesty this is the single best polish i have ever used ! 3d has a huge winner with this product! cut is a little less than m205 but the workability the finish and wipe off i have even used this in full California sun and this stuff just kept going ! its just great im going to order more of this stuff very soon. :smile1:
Now back to the car
here are some more swirly pictures
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps89fcd6fb.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps89fcd6fb.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps2b09669f.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps2b09669f.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps8879aece.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps8879aece.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsa9d315bb.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsa9d315bb.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps3927918c.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps3927918c.jpg.html)
50/50 after just fg400
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsb37f986d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsb37f986d.jpg.html)
Pictures just after fg400 and ipa wipedown you can see slight haze
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf857524d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf857524d.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps74422d13.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps74422d13.jpg.html)
before
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps04bf8a5b.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps04bf8a5b.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps62867d7a.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps62867d7a.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps0c388b44.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps0c388b44.jpg.html)
AFTER!
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsd54024a5.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsd54024a5.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsb45677d2.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsb45677d2.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsdfca66d7.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsdfca66d7.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps3ff395a2.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps3ff395a2.jpg.html)
FINISHED!! (sorry some pictures it was sprinkling a bit ignore the tiny water droplets :smile1: )
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsbee3e414.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsbee3e414.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps50652b5a.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps50652b5a.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps6e702170.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps6e702170.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsa37b9412.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsa37b9412.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zps0c927cc4.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zps0c927cc4.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsbd359d8b.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsbd359d8b.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsfbd28011.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsfbd28011.jpg.html)
Pictures after rain
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsf4a03c3d.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsf4a03c3d.jpg.html)
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/torauma93/image_zpsfde60253.jpg (http://s1327.beta.photobucket.com/user/torauma93/media/image_zpsfde60253.jpg.html)
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Ok im done thank you for reading and i hope it wasn`t to long and boring for anybody and i apologize for any of the spelling/grammar mistakes i may have made/missed.
I hope you all have a nice Christmas ! :smile1: