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Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 02:24 PM
I did a detail for the customer a couple of weeks ago (Cadillac XLR). Last week I went back to work on this older truck with only 56*** miles on it.



I was asked to clean it up for his son. How do you "clean up" a car that is over 20 years old? I only know one way to improve black paint unfortunately. So that is what I did.



Having fresh bottles of each product I started on a small section to test what pads I`d need to level the paint, which was thick enough. Interestingly the front fenders and hood were repainted at some point, even though the client had no clue. The original paint is flat black but the repaint seemed to have flakes in it and the hood is in pretty poor state and should be resprayed in my opinion. The one good thing about the paint was it`s hardness. I really enjoyed working on it since I didn`t have to stress whether I will mar the paint or not. It corrected pretty easy and I could wipe off the polish residue with no issues at all.



Anyway, I used UNO and a black wool pads on the Griots PC to level. This combo worked very well.



Next step was an Orange/yellow pad on the Flex 3401 and POLISH. This step cleaned up the paint perfectly, it was ready to be protected. However, I just had to do an additional step to get the best out of this color. I have to tell you, this black was one of the blackest paints I`ve ever worked on. Even with all the Orange Peel, the paint looked phenomenal.



Out came SPEED and a black pad on the Griots PC (my favorite pad with speed to finish with). Unless you try SPEED you really don`t understand my enthusiasm about the finish it leaves behind.



I protected the finish with POXY. As far as I know, this car is very rarely driven, so it should stay looking great for a long time.



Here are some random pictures I took throughout the detail.



General condition of the paint - this is the hood



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8142/7216887358_a3f797208a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7216887358/)

P1070397 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7216887358/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr





Improved after 3 steps



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P1070451 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211796678/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr

Left front fender was the worst panel. For some reason it had more water spots that the rest of the truck



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7211767126_1d427a01de_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211767126/)

P1070414 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211767126/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070415 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211768064/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



Cleaned up the front fender



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P1070438 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211788952/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7241/7211790066_7eab653c00_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211790066/)

P1070439 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211790066/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7243/7211790690_cd11c7da23_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211790690/)

P1070440 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211790690/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



RIDS, SWIRLS, you name it



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P1070416 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211769154/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/7211769154_f13f16e464_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211769154/)

P1070416 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211769154/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7088/7211770578_29412f6a65_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211770578/)

P1070417 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211770578/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



Much improved



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P1070419 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211772868/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7215/7211773570_a0d51a2c0c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211773570/)

P1070421 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211773570/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



Some random shots



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P1070429 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211780046/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070399 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7216889360/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070401 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7216892106/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070411 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7216907054/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070437 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211788062/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



All done



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P1070462 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211810010/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070461 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211808784/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070460 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211807386/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070459 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211806234/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070456 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211802572/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070458 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211804790/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070455 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211801678/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr



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P1070453 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7211799318/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr

imported_RZJZA80
05-17-2012, 02:45 PM
Nice work. How many passes with the UNO and then Polish did it take you?

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 02:49 PM
Thanks - this was after 1 pass with UNO/WOOL and a pass with orange pad/POLISH. The next pass with UNO leveled the RIDS that you see here - so 2 passes with UNO and 1 pass with POLISH



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P1070396 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/7216886140/) by thomasdekany (http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/), on Flickr

imported_RZJZA80
05-17-2012, 02:52 PM
OK thanks. I`m working on a car with all 3D products now, it`s taking me more than two passes to get most of the defects off, just can`t get all of them (using Makita 9227 and GG6).



edit: I`m amazed how mar free the UNO/wool works for you. I simply cannot get anywhere close to a mar free finish with just using UNO.

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 02:57 PM
What exactly are you using? Pads/speeds etc..? Car, color, year?

Underdawg736GTC
05-17-2012, 03:44 PM
Nice job Thomas, that puppy`s looking dang near flawless!!!



Just to let you know, I`m in love with SPEED! I`m working on cleaning up the roof of one of our ambulances (which hasn`t been touched by polish/wax since being built 10 years ago). Let me just tell you that besides the RIDS associated with being a big ole ambulance, it looks brand spanking new. Taking plenty of pics and hopefully I`ll have the first part of my write up posted tonight......as long as folks don`t call for us at least!!

imported_RZJZA80
05-17-2012, 03:49 PM
What exactly are you using? Pads/speeds etc..? Car, color, year?



It`s a 1962 Tbird Roadster, LC orange pad on Makita at 1500 rpm, LC orange pad on GG6 and speed 5-6. Car is red and not in very good condition. Parts are single stage, other parts are clear coat. Oddly enough, the finish after just UNO is better using the DA.

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 03:50 PM
I am very happy that you like the product. I need to get some Nitro Seal to top SPEED. That maybe the ultimate combo.

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 03:55 PM
If you have a wool pad that is not too big, for the GG6, that may make things easier for you. As far as the rotary, I`d always go with wool and much higher speeds. 1500rpm is for polishing.

:)






It`s a 1962 Tbird Roadster, LC orange pad on Makita at 1500 rpm, LC orange pad on GG6 and speed 5-6. Car is red and not in very good condition. Parts are single stage, other parts are clear coat. Oddly enough, the finish after just UNO is better using the DA.

imported_RZJZA80
05-17-2012, 04:14 PM
If you have a wool pad that is not too big, for the GG6, that may make things easier for you. As far as the rotary, I`d always go with wool and much higher speeds. 1500rpm is for polishing.

:)



yeah i went with 1500 because that`s what I`ve always used in the past with 105, and it keeps the heat down a little. I`ll try a higher speed tonight and see where that gets me (hopefully not to the metal).

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 04:16 PM
Make sure to cut with wool. What types do you have?

imported_RZJZA80
05-17-2012, 04:39 PM
Only wool I have is the purple foamed wool. I can pick up Megs wool 7 or 8 inch locally if necessary

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 04:40 PM
PFW will work very well.

Garry Dean
05-17-2012, 04:44 PM
Very nice work on an old beater! I love to see the "elite" in the business work on something other than an exotic once in a while!

Thomas Dekany
05-17-2012, 05:40 PM
Tell me about it. I arrived to do a 1 day detail on the white Lexus. Ended up with a black truck and worked nearly 2 days.



Thanks Garry




Very nice work on an old beater! I love to see the "elite" in the business work on something other than an exotic once in a while!