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Accumulator
04-21-2012, 02:21 PM
Automotive Internatinal, makers of ValuGard products, is offering a limited-time savings offer:



Mention the code T10K to receive 10% off.



IIRC, the code is good for maybe four weeks or so (it was for 30 days but it`s taken me a few to post this).



They`ve supposedly lowered some of their everyday prices, but the ones I glanced at seem the same as what I remember (ABC is $55). Still, the 10% doesn`t hurt, huh?



If you call (800) 543-7156 to order, talk with Beth. She`s great!



AI/VG stuff I recommend (all Accumulator-proof) include:

-ABC (eh, I`m not in love with "C")

-Fast Finish (love it on exterior plastics)

-Exterior Trim Restoration kit

-Bug pad (didn`t mar paint the way I expected, but YMMV, caveat emptor)

-Odor Terminator

-Omni APC (buy the concentrate, mix as directed)

-Aerosol Rust Inhibitor (but you gotta use it right)



Not saying their other stuff isn`t OK, I just don`t have personal experience to speak from.

C. Charles Hahn
04-21-2012, 03:54 PM
Ron Ketcham shared this in the chat on Thursday night as well.... I placed an order last night. They did drop the regular price on the ETR kit from $97 to $80, incidentally. That plus another 10% off makes it one heck of a deal!

imported_WCD
04-21-2012, 05:18 PM
Beth is awesome! Spent time there in `06 and `07.



Fast Finish..always liked this product. Paul A. told me they were not making this anymore. Glad to see it listed.

Omni is very good



Rob

Accumulator
04-22-2012, 02:22 PM
Fast Finish..always liked this product...



I`m not wild about it on paint or even brightwork, though sensible/discerning people like Bill D like it just fine for stuff like that. I just really *REALLY* like it on the trim (noting that I don`t dress said trim), enough that I`ll buy it just for that.



Kinda a funky smell to it, not objectionable but it makes me think of (well maintained, clean) restrooms for some reason :nervous:

Ron Ketcham
04-22-2012, 08:11 PM
That`s because one of my "list`s" when I joined them was to do away with fragances in professional products, however, there were a couple of production runs where our blending facility put a "fragrance" in the Fast Finish.

Needless to say, I went through the roof on that one.

Awww, what the heck, years ago and what is of behind me is just that, behind me.

Know why I was againist fragrances in products/

A couple, if not more, the first being why put a fragrance in a "dressing", was that so the dogs in the nieghborhood would be more prone to raise their leg on the tires, and all that putting it in was to increase the prices so that we couldn`t take that money and put more real resin in the product.

One of the others was that I realized that many times the person using a product had their little kids about when they were using a product. If the kid smelled something that was like their breakfast cereal, or gum, they would not hesitate to "taste or drink it", and that, well it`s not good.

So, in my world, back then, no fragrances that were not necessary.

May sound weird, but then I am weird anyway.

Grumpy

Bill D
04-22-2012, 09:46 PM
I`m not wild about it on paint or even brightwork, though sensible/discerning people like Bill D like it just fine for stuff like that.



Yep I always found it rather helpful to use as a lubricant during the drying process. It seems to make it go by faster.



I am a big believer in no fragrances in products but it seems like AI is one of few or maybe the only that actively pursued it. I guess I have to keep on sneezingevery now and then while detailing.

Ron Ketcham
04-22-2012, 09:51 PM
Bill, you are still leaving some protection on the surface of the subject when you do that.

Just less than if you used it as waterless and protectant.

The old Sebring hasn`t had anything other than Fast Finish on it for close to 4 years, I am just watching to see how it does, since I spray it on about every 3 or 4 months.

So far, not a lot of beading, which is B/S anyway as an indicator, but the bird bombs are not creating any etches to this point, so there is some amount of polymer protection hanging on.

Grumpy

imported_WCD
04-22-2012, 10:05 PM
My deal was to always spray the car down after the rinse, but before drying. Seemed to get the surface very slick as I dried- mentioned in earlier post as added lubricant.



Since it is still around, I`ll probably get a gallon or so when my other product runs out.



Still have about 8 16oz bottles of the leather cleaner and conditioner to use. :)

imported_Larry A
04-23-2012, 10:10 AM
I also though that Fast Finish was a great product.

Bill D
04-23-2012, 10:48 AM
Bill, you are still leaving some protection on the surface of the subject when you do that.

Just less than if you used it as waterless and protectant.

The old Sebring hasn`t had anything other than Fast Finish on it for close to 4 years, I am just watching to see how it does, since I spray it on about every 3 or 4 months.

So far, not a lot of beading, which is B/S anyway as an indicator, but the bird bombs are not creating any etches to this point, so there is some amount of polymer protection hanging on.

Grumpy



I`ve been finding that FF is one of the finest spray "wax" type products on the market. All is well if I leave a little protection behind when I use with while drying.

Accumulator
04-23-2012, 11:44 AM
Ron Ketcham- Yeah, I generally prefer the "untweaked"/chemically scents, but a few of the cutesy ones do please me. I just find it odd that I *like* the smell of the FF!



Bill D- yeah, I always think of you when I use FF.



lawrendea & WCD & Bill & Ketch- Gee, sounds like a lot of people like FF more, or in a more general sense, than I do :think: Eh, it just doesn`t leave stuff looking/feeling the way SpeedShine (waxes) or FK425/146 (sealants) do...at least not for me :nixweiss



But we`re all on the same page as far as using leaves-stuff-behind QD when drying.

C. Charles Hahn
04-24-2012, 07:17 PM
Just received my AI order this evening and found this field on the packing slip rather humorous:



http://hahn-on-the.net/pictures/detailing/VG_invoice.jpg



Looks like Ron had better call and collect his commission check! :lol: