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vassman
06-15-2011, 10:51 PM
So, I detailed my friends car for him and other than all the tree sap and bug guts, everything went fine...until I saw what I had done to the rims. I wasn`t too familiar with these rims, so I wasn`t sure how severe the problem was until I returned it to him.



I guess it all started with a tip that I got from a friend who told me that if I sprayed the rims with a citrus degreaser and let it sit, that it`d be a heck of a lot easier to remove the brake dust. I had worked on a similar set of rims (with a machined lip) that were neglected and severely covered in brake dust. So, with my past experience, and my new found knowledge, I took my friend`s advice and went ahead and sprayed the rims down with a 1:1 mix of degreaser.



The problem is, it seems that I let the degreaser sit for too long. The temperature was hot outside (23 and sunny), however, I was working in some shade. Before I knew it, the degreaser had foamed up, and baked itself onto the rims (the lip). That`s where the trouble starts. The degreaser rinsed off of the rest of the rim just fine.



When soapy water didn`t remove the baked degreaser (which I`ll call scum from now on--since it looks like soap scum), naturally, I decided to try using more degreaser to fight it off. Funny enough, the degreaser was unable to remove the scum whatsoever. Since then, I`ve tried a highly concentrated solution of OxiClean, Goo Gone (I don`t know why), Armor All`s Triple Action Rim Cleaner, and none have worked.



HOWEVER! I did use Mother`s Chrome Polish and a toothbrush later in the day, and it had some partially successful results. I say partially because: although it successfully removed the scum, it didn`t leave the chrome shiny. It now has a matte, almost brushed, looking finish rather than a shiny finish.



Enough talking, how about some pictures??



Here are what the rims should look like

http://mdl.sitesled.com/HELP2.jpg



Here are the BEFORE and AFTER pictures

http://mdl.sitesled.com/HELP.jpg





I need suggestions, or advice on how to restore the shiny chrome finish to the rims. Please help. I`ll be working on them tomorrow at 8pm EST

vassman
06-15-2011, 10:54 PM
I`ve read some forums that recommend using fine steel wool along with the chrome polish, but I`m skeptical. I`ve already somewhat upset the owner. The last thing I want to do is put scratches into the chrome.

David Fermani
06-15-2011, 11:05 PM
That`s not a film and it won`t "scrub" off. The degreaser you used "burned" or "etched" the surface of the uncoated polished wheel lip. You need to use an alluminum polish like this:



Optimum Metal Polish (http://www.optimumcarcare.com/metalpolish1.php?li=3)

HD Metal 16oz – Effective Car Polishing Product | 3D Products (http://www.3dproducts.com/HD-Metal-16-oz..html)

BLACKFIRE Fine Cut Aluminum Polish (http://www.blackfireusa.com/344-Blackfire-Fine-Cut-Aluminum-Polish.aspx)



with these polishing tools:



Mothers PowerBall (http://www.blackfireusa.com/18-Mothers-PowerBall.aspx)

Wool Polishing Balls (http://www.blackfireusa.com/244-Lake-Country-Wool-Metal-Polishing-Ball-5-.aspx)

vassman
06-15-2011, 11:17 PM
David,



If I went with the Mothers Powerball route, would I be able to use the Mothers Chrome Polish? Or do I have to get myself a different polish?

David Fermani
06-15-2011, 11:26 PM
Not sure as I`ve never used their chrome polish to polish raw alloy. That`s probably why they also offer an alluminum polish called Power Metal. I`d try PMing the Mother`s Sales rep that frequents this forum. His screen name is "forrest". He has tons of knowledge

Guitarist302008
06-16-2011, 12:28 AM
is it chrome or aluminum? I`ve polished a lot of Motorcycle frames, engine parts, wheels, etc etc. If it`s aluminum then it will come out with aluminum polish and elbow grease. If it`s chrome, chrome polish SHOULD take it off. Aluminum gets that cloudy look after a while anyway. I remember having a set of polish wheels and running my old truck through a car wash and it made them look HORRIBLE... I spent quite a few hours polishing them back to a mirror shine.

Guitarist302008
06-16-2011, 12:32 AM
You think the power metal would do it David? OP... you could try the power metal and go to a hardware store and get a buffing wheel for a drill and use that... the power ball is to soft IMO.. but you could try it just in case.

forrest@mothers
06-16-2011, 09:19 AM
PM sent. Waiting for more info.

Darkstar752
06-16-2011, 09:30 AM
Chrome polish is more aggressive than aluminum, hence the dull look you`re getting. You`ll need something soft to get it back to it`s mirror shine.

forrest@mothers
06-16-2011, 12:24 PM
Edit for more info received - see my reply further below for correct instructions.

TedFred
06-16-2011, 12:26 PM
I`ve read some forums that recommend using fine steel wool along with the chrome polish, but I`m skeptical. I`ve already somewhat upset the owner. The last thing I want to do is put scratches into the chrome.



What ever you do no not use steel woolThe steel gets embedded into the aluminum and the wheels will rust.



They will rust forever

TedFred
06-16-2011, 12:29 PM
Chrome polish is more aggressive than aluminum, hence the dull look you`re getting. You`ll need something soft to get it back to it`s mirror shine.



Use the eagle one wadding polish. It is great for aluminum. It is the best that you can get. That is why eagle one bought the company.



Amazon.com: Eagle One 1035605 Nevr-Dull Wadding Polish: Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-One-1035605-Nevr-Dull-Wadding/dp/B000CNBI1A)



I use it for the aluminum wheeled hot rod in the picture:lol1:

forrest@mothers
06-16-2011, 01:09 PM
After more research, I can offer the following:



If these are the rims:



MSR (http://www.msrwheels.com/auto_car_wheels.cfm?id=336#)



They appear to be the "superfinish", which is not chrome, but a highly polished aluminum. You`ll need to use an aluminum polish (and a fairly aggressive one at that), to remove the dulling caused by the citrus cleaner. We have a process that can be used to restore them - email me at the address below and I`ll get you in contact with our folks that can help you out.

Guitarist302008
06-16-2011, 04:47 PM
i`m just wondering... are these like expensive wheels or the cheap ebay knock offs? It doesn`t matter... I was just curious.

Guitarist302008
06-16-2011, 04:48 PM
Yeah forrest... I think he`s going to have to polish the hell out of those things! lol... it should come out though if it is indeed aluminum.