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jsilas
12-31-2010, 12:18 AM
I`m currently considering having VentureShield applied to my new car (`11 MDX in black) and I wanted to run a couple questions by you.



1. Is VentureShield a good product, or is there something better I should consider? I`ve done a bunch of research and it seems that the VentureShield is the way to go (at least compared to 3M stuff offered by the dealership).



2. How does one go about keeping the VentureShield surface swirl-free? I know proper washing techniques will go a long way, but I`d imagine that just like paint, it`ll need to be corrected from time to time. Can I just use my R/O polisher and some standard mild paint polish on the VS surface, or is there something else needed?



Thanks very much in advance!

Scottwax
12-31-2010, 12:39 AM
Never heard of it before, most of my customers use the 3M clear bras. I haven`t noticed any real swirling in any of the clear bras on my customer`s cars, main issue is dirt/wax build-up along the edges. I tend to stick with Opti-Seal or OCW when I detail cars with clear bras so I don`t have to go back and get wax off the edges of the bras. If you stick with a mild polish, you shouldn`t have any issues marring the bra up.



Definitely make sure the paint is swirl free before the bra goes on... ;)

gigondaz
12-31-2010, 03:30 AM
My customers` cars with 3M and VS protection films, normally ends up having lots of spider-web scratches on the films. Depends on how the car is maintained. Once the soft, plastic film is scratched, you can`t remove it as you remove swirls from paintwork.



If you experience light scratches on your film in the future, this is what I do:

1. Megs Plast-X...and

2. ..apply any durable wax on top. My choice is Collinite 845.

This`ll make the aged, finely scratched film look much better.

AZN_C300
01-02-2011, 12:44 AM
Venture Shield and 3M are the top two brands out there, with Xpel being a close third. Venture Shield has smaller pores than 3M so won`t trap contaminants as easily. I polish mine with Menzerna Super Finish and 85rd, and seal with Opti-Seal as it`s optically clear. Stay away from dyed LSPs.

jsilas
01-02-2011, 11:45 AM
Venture Shield and 3M are the top two brands out there, with Xpel being a close third. Venture Shield has smaller pores than 3M so won`t trap contaminants as easily. I polish mine with Menzerna Super Finish and 85rd, and seal with Opti-Seal as it`s optically clear. Stay away from dyed LSPs.



Interesting - so it seems you CAN machine polish the clearbra with success?



What I want to ensure is that I don`t put this Venture Shield on my car, only to have swirls get in the material that I cannot get out. I`d rather deal with a few rock chips that I CAN fix than a swirled clearbra that I cannot fix.

David Fermani
01-02-2011, 01:21 PM
I`d PM John Kleven as he`s a Venture Shield installer and can give you the ins and outs of the product.

Innovative Detailing
01-02-2011, 03:17 PM
I`m currently considering having VentureShield applied to my new car (`11 MDX in black) and I wanted to run a couple questions by you.



1. Is VentureShield a good product, or is there something better I should consider? I`ve done a bunch of research and it seems that the VentureShield is the way to go (at least compared to 3M stuff offered by the dealership).



2. How does one go about keeping the VentureShield surface swirl-free? I know proper washing techniques will go a long way, but I`d imagine that just like paint, it`ll need to be corrected from time to time. Can I just use my R/O polisher and some standard mild paint polish on the VS surface, or is there something else needed?



Thanks very much in advance!



VentureShield is a good product, 3m has acquired Venture as one of their brands.....Avery Dennison`s "Nano Fushion" film is also an excellent choice.



Keeping PPF swirl and scratch free is just like caring for your paint, and yes every so often it can be jeweled or corrected. Here is a photo of some PPF that was installed on this brand new Tesla Roadster in which the customer was very unhappy. From the looks of it, either a cat, someone at the factory or the dealer induced some nice scratches on it....



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0469.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0468.jpg



I was able to correct 97% of these cat scratches from the PPF by rotary polishing it at a set speed of 1400 rpm. I selected to use a Megs W7204 cutting pad with M205 and slowly jewel out the scratches, followed by a few passes with a W8204 polishing pad and M205. Polishing should be done "Cool" being careful not to heat the PPF or you will have issues. Be sure not to apply any excessive pressure downward and just let the weight of the machine, pad and product combo do the job. My friend Joe from Superior Shine who was kind enough to work with me on this project, then followed up with some M205 and a W8006 with the PCXP and gave the entire vehicle including the PPF a pass for the ultimate polish....



Also corrected was the extensive scratches all the way up the hood, even where no PPF was installed....



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0464.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0472.jpg



Final shots of corrected PPF



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0493.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0494.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0490.jpg



Hope this will help you out......



Happy New Years!

Barry Theal
01-02-2011, 03:30 PM
VentureShield is a good product, 3m has acquired Venture as one of their brands.....Avery Dennison`s "Nano Fushion" film is also an excellent choice.



Keeping PPF swirl and scratch free is just like caring for your paint, and yes every so often it can be jeweled or corrected. Here is a photo of some PPF that was installed on this brand new Tesla Roadster in which the customer was very unhappy. From the looks of it, either a cat, someone at the factory or the dealer induced some nice scratches on it....



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0469.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0468.jpg



I was able to correct 97% of these cat scratches from the PPF by rotary polishing it at a set speed of 1400 rpm. I selected to use a Megs W7204 cutting pad with M205 and slowly jewel out the scratches, followed by a few passes with a W8204 polishing pad and M205. Polishing should be done "Cool" being careful not to heat the PPF or you will have issues. Be sure not to apply any excessive pressure downward and just let the weight of the machine, pad and product combo do the job. My friend Joe from Superior Shine who was kind enough to work with me on this project, then followed up with some M205 and a W8006 with the PCXP and gave the entire vehicle including the PPF a pass for the ultimate polish....



Also corrected was the extensive scratches all the way up the hood, even where no PPF was installed....



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0464.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0472.jpg



Final shots of corrected PPF



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0493.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0494.jpg



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/2011%20Tesla%20Roadster%20paint%20correction%20no% 20watermark/DSC_0490.jpg



Hope this will help you out......



Happy New Years!







Wow two old farts on the same car! :chuckle: Great advice Dave!!! A Denalli as a detail rig? Thats it, Im moving to LA you guys have it made out there.:rockon:

Innovative Detailing
01-02-2011, 03:47 PM
Wow two old farts on the same car! :chuckle: Great advice Dave!!! A Denalli as a detail rig? Thats it, Im moving to LA you guys have it made out there.:rockon:



Yup, thats how we do it.........almost 50 years of experience right there, Thanks Barry!!!



Denali is my working truck/mobile office of choice since 06.......when pulling up in some of these high end neighborhoods she sure gets the respect and the eye!!...gotta love the OC and LA.



http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k448/Havasulvr/No%20watermark/DSC_0522.jpg

2005GTPinMD
01-02-2011, 03:54 PM
I have Ventureshield on my car and love it. I don`t polish it - as I don`t have the talent for it. But it holds up well. What I use on it to shine it up is a good LSP such as OCW or BFWD.