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David Fermani
08-01-2010, 03:11 PM
Leather Doctor Leather Ink & Dye Stain Removal Kit Review



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The problem started when a passenger who was wearing a brown colored leather belt sat in the rear seat of my clients Rolls Royce Phantom. This caused the color (dye) from their belt to transfer off the belt and onto the seat cushion of the Rolls. I tried everything possible (Leather Masters/ multiple APCs/Spoil Shield / Hairspray) to remove the dye transfer on the cream colored leather seat. All without any luck! That is until I tried Leather Doctor’s system that is specially created for removing these types of problems. I originally heard great things about this system from another forum member (Greg Nichols) and my client and I thought we’d have nothing to loose at this point. If it didn’t work, we would have been forced to resort to re-coloring the seat, which realistically was pretty frightening to say the least. The instructions were pretty straight forward and broke down treatment in 5 Phases. After discussing options with Roger Koh (the Leather Doctor), he suggested that I start with Phase 2. This is also the phase that Greg Nichols used as well.





Befores:



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Here’s how it went:



I applied the LD Prep 7.7 via a foam paint brush onto the whole area where the stain was embedded. This product is somewhat sticky and stays wet for extended periods of time. After about 2 hours of dwell time, I used a Q-Tip to see if any transfer was starting to lift, but it didn’t. At that point I became a little discouraged with this product and a little hesitant in its ability. But, I remembered both Roger & Greg telling me that this product needs a lot of dwell time to do its thing. It basically penetrates the dye transfer, starts suspending it and keeps pulling it off the substrate until it’s totally removed. This product is totally leather safe and cannot create damage to healthy leather.



I then reapplied an additional thin coat of Prep 7.7 and left it alone to do its thing for a total of 9 hours. All the work btw was done inside an air conditioned garage meaning that heat was not required for this product to do its thing.



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I came back to check on things and found that the stain was completed dissolved and was gone!!



I then wiped the sticky Prep 7.7 residue away with generic paper towels to inspect. Again stain was gone. I then sprayed LD Cleaner 3.8 to neutralize the Prep 7.7. Wiping with paper towel. This made the leather surface feel squeaky clean, which as the Doctor claims that “the leather is now healthy”.



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After final satisfactory results were obtained, I used LD Leather Scent B which is a rub resistance protector that has an incredible natural leather smell to it.



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Afters:



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Final thoughts: This product is amazingly easy, powerful and is a life saver. I highly recommend it to anyone with grease based ink stains like ballpoint pens, water based ink stains like stamp pad ink, dye transfer stains like blue jeans, ink prints and newsprints. They types of problems can now be corrected with this amazing product.



Just to document that I paid for this product:



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Greg Nichols
08-02-2010, 03:42 PM
Excellent job David! Glad it worked so easy for you.



Cheers

Greg
Barry Theal
08-02-2010, 07:02 PM
David that looks amazing. Are the seats in this one uncoated leather? This is actually a very big deal when it comes to interiors. There are a lot of interior tricks and such, but when dealing with uncoated leather like I think this is, man what a fantastic process. How long did this take? 98$ plus labor is quite a cheap fix for this as those seats are crazy exspensive Great work!!! I think I may have to order some of this for future. Seems like one of them really nice things to have around. Also how would this compare to Leatherique
wascallyrabbit
08-02-2010, 09:17 PM
Barry,

I`m in the process of ordering some stuff to do my audi. the repair will include recoloring and top coating. i used the sample kit and was impressed which is why i`m using LD stuff do restore my audi seats. its my feeling that LD is superior to all the stuff i`ve used in the past.
Barry Theal
08-02-2010, 09:25 PM
Barry,

I`m in the process of ordering some stuff to do my audi. the repair will include recoloring and top coating. i used the sample kit and was impressed which is why i`m using LD stuff do restore my audi seats. its my feeling that LD is superior to all the stuff i`ve used in the past.



Thanks Man I will now have to try it!
David Fermani
09-15-2010, 08:16 PM
Excellent job David! Glad it worked so easy for you.



Cheers

Greg



Thanks Greg and all your assistance was very helpful. Like you and Roger said, long term dwell time is key. After 4 or so hours of going back and reinspecting the stain with the owner, we became very disappointed that it didn’t budge. After forgetting about it for pretty much the entire day went came back and it was gone! Amazing.




David that looks amazing. Are the seats in this one uncoated leather? This is actually a very big deal when it comes to interiors. There are a lot of interior tricks and such, but when dealing with uncoated leather like I think this is, man what a fantastic process. How long did this take? 98$ plus labor is quite a cheap fix for this as those seats are crazy exspensive Great work!!! I think I may have to order some of this for future. Seems like one of them really nice things to have around. Also how would this compare to Leatherique



Thanks a bunch Barry. These seats are definitely coated. The whole process only took less than 5 minutes of actual hands on work, but the dwell time was a full day. This system requires dwell time (like Leatherique) and cannot be rushed. Make sure to set aside a full day for the product to do it’s thing. I suggest getting to the site 1st thing and applying the product. Do a detail on another car and check on things periodically and by the end of the day you’re done. There is no other product on the market designed like this to remove these kinds of stains. It beyond other cleaner’s capabilities.




Barry,

I`m in the process of ordering some stuff to do my audi. the repair will include recoloring and top coating. i used the sample kit and was impressed which is why i`m using LD stuff do restore my audi seats. its my feeling that LD is superior to all the stuff i`ve used in the past.



Good luck with your project. I’m sure you’ll be happy. I’d love to see some good pics of your work.
howareb
09-15-2010, 08:49 PM
Awesome David,



I have ran into these types of problems before, and although I am a big fan of leather masters, I felt helpless. So it is good to know about this product and how well it works. Thanks
David Fermani
09-15-2010, 08:50 PM
Thanks howareb - I appreciate your opinion!
howareb
09-15-2010, 08:52 PM
Awesome David,



I have ran into these types of problems before, and although I am a big fan of leather masters, I felt helpless. So it is good to know about this product and how well it works. Thanks
Greg Nichols
11-18-2010, 12:57 AM
Just have to follow up.....



Did another car with black belt dye transfer, worked very nicely. However, the dwell time is EVERYTHING. Its hard to tell a client the process takes 2 days. I hope roger can cut the time in 1/2 with the same results.



Most clients are okay with the process taking days, but I`m not a patience person I guess.



Still the ONLY product out there to safely remove stains in leather.



Cheers,

GREG
Accumulator
11-18-2010, 12:45 PM
David Fermani- Glad it solved the problem, and thanks for posting about it. Looks like that was ~$100 well spent.



wascallyrabbit- I`ll be interested to hear how things go on the Audi!
Roger Koh
11-18-2010, 02:57 PM
Just have to follow up.....



I hope Roger can cut the time in 1/2 with the same results.



Still the ONLY product out there to safely remove stains in leather.



Cheers,

GREG







By cutting the dwelling time, heat has to be introduced; moving from the working range of Cool 5 - 20C, to Warm 20 - 35C, to Hot 35 - 50C; with caution of overheating beyond the hot range.



And periodic 4-hourly inspection is recommended to remove release dyes and reapplication for further working to satisfaction.



When dyes stain do moves in the first 4 hours; it is a sure sign it will remove the last remaining traces with TIME; sooner perhaps with help of appropriate increment of the temperature working range.



Let’s hear from you how this tip helps!



Roger Koh

info@leatherdoctor.org
David Fermani
11-18-2010, 10:04 PM
Just have to follow up.....



Did another car with black belt dye transfer, worked very nicely. However, the dwell time is EVERYTHING. Its hard to tell a client the process takes 2 days. I hope roger can cut the time in 1/2 with the same results.



Most clients are okay with the process taking days, but I`m not a patience person I guess.



Still the ONLY product out there to safely remove stains in leather.

Cheers,

GREG



Yes it is. Glad it`s still working for you Greg!




David Fermani- Glad it solved the problem, and thanks for posting about it. Looks like that was ~$100 well spent.





It sure was. Especially for this expensive application as the only other alternative was to recolor or replace.




By cutting the dwelling time, heat has to be introduced; moving from the working range of Cool 5 to 20C to Warm 20 to 35C to Hot 35 - 50C; with caution of overheating beyond the hot range.



And periodic 4-hourly inspection is recommended to remove release dyes and reapplication for further working to satisfaction.



When dyes stain do moves in the first 4 hours; it is a sure sign it will remove the last remaining traces with TIME; sooner perhaps with help of appropriate increment of the temperature working range.



Let’s hear from you how this tip helps!



Roger Koh

info@leatherdoctor.org



Good explanation Roger.
salty
11-19-2010, 11:13 AM
How many seats or what kind of coverage do you get out of the product?