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KC@detailien
07-05-2010, 12:07 AM
How do you gauge a person is car crazy or not?

Answer

1. Spend his time looking at his ride more than anyone else



2. Clean her more than any other chores at home



3. Willingly spend his fortune on lavished her, time & effort worth everything



4. Called his ride by name



I share something of my passion to many & of which this one particularly captivated my heart & soul of detailing



remember this familiar ride.... 21 years of oxidized paint that was doomed for repainting even professional body shop says is beyond detailing correction

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my 1st attempts (12 months ago)

pic after after 1st correctional detail

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she is known as my Nissan 2face



Car detailer: Nissan Sunny AKA two face (http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2009/09/nissan-sunny-aka-two-face.html)





some may prefer this original look

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I may not have the luxury looking ride or paint but it has been always my passion to detail & to maintained what I have restores.



My paint on one side of the car is 21 years old of age & another restores last year & regularly maintained by bi monthly waxes & 6 months polish, as it is a non clear coated car (AKA single stage paint). Constantly facing the aging issue



A good classic examples…would be…our house gates & grills…living in the tropics....paint get oxidized prematurely by heat & acid rain & yearly painting required, it turn dulls & oxidized



The solution…a double stage paint was created to protect this aging process….clear coat paint……I may not have the luxury again to repaint my car…..but fortunate to have a special coating flown in special from US manufacture….AKA Alien coating





This is my thesis done….studying on my own



Paint defect correction…etched marked caused by prolong neglected birds dropping



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spot wet sanded for testing



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paint etched by this acidic droppings threat & wet sanded to level up & compound off





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Ta da

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wet sanded the rest of the 50% of my entire car





Wet sanded the affected area to bring out the defect, 1500 grits sand paper used, followed by 2000 grits sand paper



"Wet sanding" refers to sanding with specially designed sandpaper wrapped around a skinny sponge with water running on the sanding area to clean away paint/primer from the area you are sanding.



"Block sanding" means putting a hard flat structure behind sand paper... use paint paddlesticks or small blocks of wood.



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sanding mark removed by compound & I choose M 105 for it aggressiveness & nos 12 cut in precision cutting scale







a prefect 50/50 % comparison picture…to show the 21 years old paint which was oxidized & another side that was corrected





pics before wet sanded

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after wet sanded down by 1500 grit sand paper & followed by 2000 grit sand paper



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perfectly & evenly sanded down……



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The sanding mark was removed by Megs # 105 with S/side wool pad , followed by Lake country Cutting pad with M# 105 & Polish by Megs 80 with Lake country Polishing pad



Another 50/50 comparison pic after sanding mark removed

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there is some visible deep scratches is too deep to be removed…..as this car was terribly

neglected for 21 years & paint was just left there to be oxidized. There are countless area where deep scratches inflicted by scotch bright dishes scrub, some are more severe as it seems, it has been brushes over metal bristle brushes



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4 months later



Intervention plan…to maintained this Single coated paint, with minimal effort



ONR No rinse Wash prior Claying (aggressive clay) & lube with ONR





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To removed paint imperfection before coating my single stage paint



M#105 with Wool by rotary



Followed by M# 105 with Lake country CCS



Optimum Polish with LC polishing pad

After pics

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tada

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prefect stage

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Apparently, this coating was design to with stand all harshness of weather & environmental threat. Counted my blessing to be able to attained this & having this extra ordinary water beaded results



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Pay attention to the blue tape mark area



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tape prior coating, it is an area that I coat without any corrections



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Pics after coated applied

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look at the 21 years old & oxidized paint



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300 watt Halogen lamp is no feat even in penetrating thru ….dead paint…dull & matt





admiring the gloss at the corrected coated side ( on the engine bonnet area only)

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tada pics

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the car was left to cure for 48 hours….while we went for an outting



3 days later some sun light pics



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some beading pics after some sunny drops

Scottwax
07-05-2010, 12:18 AM
Cool thread, amazing difference!

KC@detailien
07-05-2010, 01:25 AM
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the next day …….midst

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the roof part, Optimum ONR effect, water beading

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a week later

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prefect water beading pics…that I personally have not seen in my entire life…..look at the semi circle shaped water that’s beads up because of the surface tensioned



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8 days later



Another morning midst & after over night rain pics

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2 months later…another prefect moments again…rain drop on 2face

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the protected side has better water beading & the neglected side water splattered…horizontally



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another unbelieving water beading picture, that I never seen on any single stage paint



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look at the clarity of the paint , remains even after 60 days



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67 days later

extremely close up pics

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look at the prefect 50/50pics



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alien eggs???



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extreme close up pics

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extreme close up pics



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extreme close up pics





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this is the actual mail i received from a international detailing supplier cheif technician



Hi kc,



After i looked the picture yes this is very bad oxidation and powdery aslo on roof top have few area getting Corrosion. i assume that this is not original paint,this is a single stage paint and also not a Clear coat paint so we can not call this is Clear Coat Failure.

the paint is 30-40 years back - Paint Technology ( Alkyd Enamel Paint ) not 2k Paint ( Two Components Paint )

Alkyd Enamel Paint - local we call slow dry paint or call Cat Biasa.

the durability of alkyd enamel paint won`t lasting as 2k paint,this is it different paint Categories



Comparison between different system chart with attached.



The only honest answer as to how to fix this problem is to re-paint the entire car.



what would have happen if i just believe LUCK (what others says about me) ...& it ran out....



in my conclusion.....there is 2 type of detailer here :-



the 1st type - one who is constantly giving out his personal ideal of detailing (IMHO, IMO. MO) such as beg to defer kinda opinion



the other ...who`s ...........SHOW ME YOUR WORK detailer...the only thing they do is explores & have a personal encounters & not just another read some where or pick along the way......who says what kinda experience





..Thanks to Dr G for making my life so easy & wonderful.....1stly ONR..then optimum range of O Seal, OC wax, Opt power clean....Opt Polish OPT compound & now OPTI COAT...the greatest ever

.. Forest Gump : life is just like a box of chocolate ...u never know what it will comes out to be



always expect the unexpected



as all it takes is a little patience & plenty of passion





stay tuned for more....his friend called joker

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KC@detailien
07-05-2010, 01:26 AM
Cool thread, amazing difference!



Thanks Scott

you are our real inspiration......Yes truly amazing...truly diffrence