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KC@detailien
06-12-2010, 07:09 PM
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS - before you visit malaysia



Climate?

The climate of Malaysia is hot and humid throughout the year, the highest SPF Sun block is recommended, Temperature ranging from 21°C (70°F) to about 35°C (95°F). Occasional rain during the period between Oct~Feb helps to bring down the temperature & usually last than an hour. Humidity between 75% and 100%!



Clothing?

Light clothing is recommended, golf cap, sunglasses & umbrella will reduce the heat of the day.





It was another hot afternoon, 32 degrees Celsius , humid & stuffy day



This is a brand new Suzuki Swift sport, fully import from Japan, which delivered to my friend. Good looking little ride. But later we discover a can of hidden worms – paint defect on a new ride, paint transfers…..more & more

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I got to know him, through one of my public detailing session & he contacted me to him detail her.



Upon meeting up & viewing the car at night, without much street light....only with my little torch light, i discover patches of paint ..on the front engine hood. almost covered 1/3 of the right hood, only found out after his 1st wash & without realizing during the delivery time, he already complaint to the car sales man (of this defects) & he actually drove this to Megs detailing centre (they even did some wet sanding to demo to the owner) but not complete restore

what happen was ...the hood was repainted that quaterly & the car sales claims that it was some overspray......OVER SPRAY WHAT????? some paint flew from the car besides???? make no sense



so last sunday, he came over to my place & since another forumer called me ( i invited him along & gave both some private detailing lesson)



Car Detailing Lesson Guide

1. Washing

2. Cleaning – claying

3. Correction – paint defects, (removing swirls, water stains, over sprayed paints & minor scratches) Rotary hands on

4. Polishing - to restore the gloss

5. Protecting – opti sealing, wax







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obvious paint defects with some underlining issue



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patches of stains only on the repainted area



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side wallls



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rear bonnet stains...on this bright bumper bee



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after wash, defects seems to be clearer

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Before wash – look carefully on the scratches, lines & stains



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Agitate with Optimum power clean 50/50 % comparison area , as u can see the upper hood is sprayed and showing cleaner than the bottom hood

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Agitating with Power clean - most fine scratches & stain disappear but……………….not completely gone lesser effects



Although- most fine scratches & stain disappear but……………….

After wash look good but it resurfaces again



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birthday cake - every body got a share

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clay time is a happy time

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Once this is wash, I showed both of them how to clay. I went to check out the windows & glasses, discover a lot of water stains, knowing my friend constant going out station & extensive traveling, I decided to correct the windows







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Remember the paint defects, 1/3 of the hood was resprayed before & the car salesman denied, where another detailing centre wet sanded on it….to my amazement, I discover that defect areas has stains & scratches too….

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_RsduO4BD4FA/TA7wO3vmdTI/AAAAAAAAImk/CwQtT_KhpD8/s800/P1070128.JPG



http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RsduO4BD4FA/TA7wPTPWHMI/AAAAAAAAImo/FXi3e7AbsIo/s800/P1070127.JPG



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while both of them claying. I went to check out the windows & glasses, discover a lot of water stains, knowing my friend constant going out station & extensive traveling, I decided to correct the windows

KC@detailien
06-12-2010, 07:11 PM
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Simple test, use a damp cloth & wipe over, if it leave a film of stains & has no clarity…it will definite stains your vision while particularly driving in the rain & at night. Taping off all windows rubber seals & plastic trims …

Took some pics before & after



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50/50 area set

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RsduO4BD4FA/TA7wTdZpzZI/AAAAAAAAIm4/B72LVwkGq2U/s800/P1070139.JPG

50/50

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ta da

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moving to front left windows







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Menu for the day

Cleaning - hosing down with water , deep cleaning with Optimum Power clean, safe for clear coat.

Claying –2 ounces of ONR optimum no rinse wash with 500ml water, as lube

ONR wash again with 1 microfibes towel – dry by 2 cloths,



Glass cleaning – heavy water marks stain on all Glass polish (with rotary spread with speed 1 on single side wool & continue to polish gradually speed progression & eventually finish at speed 6 Makita)



Paint defects/overspray corrections – Megs M105 with Lake country CCS cutting pad (with rotary spread with speed 1 & moving to speed 3-4)



Polishing with Megs 205 (with Lake country CCS cutting pad (with rotary spread with speed 1 & moving to speed 3-2)



Protectant - Opti seal – sealed the whole car, including paint, plastic & rubber trims –

NXT 2.0 ( as the owner choice) - Uqd



Pain defect – over sprayed & wet sanded before pics

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over sprayed pics

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after corrections

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RsduO4BD4FA/TA7wkTCd0tI/AAAAAAAAInw/HRrMe5nznfw/s800/P1070202.JPG



this is the evident that prove .....its kept a long time & uncover....look inbetween the paint the hood & inside the engine bay

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more differential pics

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more heart sick pics

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pics under hood



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more more evidence



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now the real issue........... over sprayed vs resprayed???? pics...

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see t the imperfection of the paint

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from a new CBU car??????

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let me asked you would you pay for this???? agreed to go home with this condition from the delivery??

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pics before corrections

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pics after corrections

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more at the centre hood...resprayed defects

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a 50/50 % area set

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50/50 % pics

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50/50 % pics



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50/50 % pics



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KC@detailien
06-12-2010, 07:15 PM
__________________________________ the deeper issue ______________________________________



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_______________________________ WHAT DID YOU JUST OBSERVED??? its a single stage PAINT_______

there is paint transference.....on the PAD & micro fibers



50/50 % pics



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after

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after ta da pics

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look at the clarity of the paint on the hood

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ma ma mia

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definitions sated

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Now hands on time - lesson cont with handling the rotary & polishing

showed them how to hold the rotary

product use for each process

drawing the line of polish

spread the product - progressing in Rotary





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thats is fun

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yeah they enjoy themself

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another 50/50 % pics side left front panel

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another 50/50 % pics side left front panel

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a frame before & after corrections pics

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remember the petrol scratches

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after

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look at the paint transfered on the towels

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its a sad thing....as its so much harder to maintained a single stage paint than CC

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but the depth & glow is excellent



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i did suggested maybe

it should get it coated...since i have got some from US

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Truly it has been another great detailing day out for us , we had many questions asked & answered. Discovered many things along the way especially….the can of worns never expected to find on a brand new imported car – the single stage paint



Everyone was so intense & panic upon discovery, angry & yet peaceful



Marking over fellowship & detailing ship a meaningful ones



Thanks for viewing

AlexRuiz
12-13-2010, 12:17 PM
Wow, wow, simply wow!

You did an amazing job, nice ride and what a shame on condition.



How long dig it take to get done?

Scottwax
12-13-2010, 04:06 PM
Excellent job fixing the paint! :)



So sad that stuff like that is so common on new cars. I just detailed a black Cadillac for a law firm (owner was having it done for a key employee) that had water spots and rotary swirls on the tailgate and A pillar and over spray on the right rear C pillar. Caddy still has the dealer tags on it. :wall

KC@detailien
12-14-2010, 04:55 AM
Wow, wow, simply wow!

You did an amazing job, nice ride and what a shame on condition.



How long dig it take to get done?

thanks AlexRuiz for your kind words of encouragement




Excellent job fixing the paint! :)



So sad that stuff like that is so common on new cars. I just detailed a black Cadillac for a law firm (owner was having it done for a key employee) that had water spots and rotary swirls on the tailgate and A pillar and over spray on the right rear C pillar. Caddy still has the dealer tags on it. :wall



Thank you sir....wow...can wait to get a hands on a Caddy

Yupp, truly agreed with you SAD is the word, that actually reflect their irresponsibility. Do you know the reason of your existence ...is to bring what not known to many & making in simple & beautiful again

Keep up your good work buddy