Frustrated

[20Deep]

So I picked up a 7424xp and some Megs 105 and 205 to get some of the scratches and water marks out of my paint.



After about 4 hours of work on different parts of the vehicle, using different amounts of pressure and product, I have seen no improvements whatsoever. Even the slightest of surface scratches remain.



I honestly have no idea what I`m doing wrong.



I`m using an orange pad with 105 ... surely that amount of cut should have at least some results, right?

[Tru_Shine]

Sounds hard to believe? I dont know what to tell you, even if you didn`t do It completely perfect you should still see results, how much M105 are you applying to the pad?

[todd@bsaw]

What type of car? Has it been repainted?



M105 on an orange pad should be plenty aggressive enough to do a significant amount of correction. How long did you work each panel?

[RaskyR1]

and how fast are you moving the PC across the paint?

[20Deep]

It`s a 2007 VW Touareg. I know that VW paint is notoriously hard and I was ok with not getting a perfect finish because of that but to get nothing is surely frustrating.



I was working 2`x2` areas and would guesstimate that I was maybe working each area for 3 minutes or so. After priming the pad I was putting two circles of 105 around the outside.



I`m thinking that I may move down to a 4" yellow pad. That`s really the only solution that I can think of at the moment.

[RaskyR1]

It`s a 2007 VW Touareg. I know that VW paint is notoriously hard and I was ok with not getting a perfect finish because of that but to get nothing is surely frustrating.



I was working 2`x2` areas and would guesstimate that I was maybe working each area for 3 minutes or so. After priming the pad I was putting two circles of 105 around the outside.



I`m thinking that I may move down to a 4" yellow pad. That`s really the only solution that I can think of at the moment.





Too much product being used for sure. After priming 4 pea sized drops is all that should be needed.

Make sure you arm speed is slow (1-2 inch per sec).

Reduce your work area size

Yellow 4" pad will likely haze the **** out of your paint. I`d stick with the orange or Cyan Hydro if you go to a 4".

3 minutes is way over working a section with M105.









Can you post up some pics?

[20Deep]

Yea give me a minute

[20Deep]

These are areas that I have already done.



Sorry for the terrible pictures but the sun isn`t out at the moment so I had to improvise.



http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/1195/SNV30534.JPG



http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/1196/SNV30537.JPG



http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/1197/SNV30538.JPG

[Accumulator]

20Deep- Welcome to Autopia!



What RaskyR1 said (and seeing the pics doesn`t change my opinion on that either).



And note that it might take numerous tries to get some of that deeper marring out. M105 really is a miracle worker compared to most other such products, but those miracles don`t happen instantaneously ;)



Noting that I advise people to err on the side of caution (even if I don`t always do it on my own vehicles :o ), some of that marring might be a bit deep for 100% removal.

[RaskyR1]

Yeah, those look like some deeper RIDS you`re trying to remove. Aside from the RIDS the finish actually looks to be in good condition.





Can you catch the edge of those scratches with your finger nail?

[Tru_Shine]

yeah, they look pretty deep, that first pic looks like something I would wet sand to get out.

[20Deep]

Thanks for the input guys. Maybe I`ll try a few more passes using less product and see if there is any improvement. Going over the same area numerous times isn`t dangerous in any way correct?



So going with a yellow pad is definitely not the way to go?

[subygirl]

if you can feel the scratch with your fingernail - be careful about trying to take the scratch completely out because you might compromise your clearcoat and leave a larger blemish than when you started

[Accumulator]

Thanks for the input guys. Maybe I`ll try a few more passes using less product and see if there is any improvement. Going over the same area numerous times isn`t dangerous in any way correct?



Well, it`s more risky than just going over the area once, but that`s because you`re taking off more clear and taking off more clear is kinda the whole idea behind doing correction like this. It`s a matter of knowing when to say "good enough".



Can`t really *ever* say that abrading away paint is not dangerous in any way ;) But it`s all a matter of degree.



But generally, on paint that hasn`t been aggressively corrected before, sure...I go over a given area quite a few times.




So going with a yellow pad is definitely not the way to go?



You can get almost the same degree of correction with orange foam or PFW, with a lot less hazing/etc. That means less abrasion required to clear up such artifacts, so less overall clear ends up removed to accomplish the same level of correction.



If a 4" orange/cyan/PFW pad can`t do it, I don`t think you *oughta* do it. I use pads like that to remove wetsanding marks on very hard clear (something else that takes numerous attempts).