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OllieJay
04-03-2010, 03:35 AM
Well with nothing else to do and having a neglected black Pontiac sitting in the driveway I thought I practice my polishing skills and do a wax test. I used the Makita 9227c and started off with M105 using a orange light cutting pad which was followed by M205 with a white foam polishing pad. I then applied the three different wax`s I had: Meguiars tech wax, Mothers Powerwax and Collinites 845. I`ve always heard how people claim one wax provides a better, deeper, wetter, shinier, and longer lasting finish than the other, so I put it to the test. After M205 I applied the Tech wax and PowerWax with the Porter cable and Collinites by hand.



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Now after everything was applied and allowed to sit for a while It was then buffed off using the port cable using a microfiber bonnet (a fresh bonnet for each wax).



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After everything was buffed off I then took the car out of the shade and into sunlight. Results: The only thing that SORT OF and I say SORT OF because you had to be on a certain angle to see this but the Tech wax, I believe left more of a wet look than the others but nothing really to even get excited about. IMO and from what I saw with my own eyes I would have to say you can`t tell the difference between the three wax`s. There was no point in taking a picture of the end result as you would never be able to see any difference between the three. But one thing that I could notice right away was how the paint beads when it had rained on the car. **Tech wax and and powerwax applied on the left side & Collinites applied on the right.**



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LEFT SIDE



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RIGHT SIDE



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As you can see the side that the Collintes 845 (right) was applied to - its appears to allow the water to bead and roll off easier than the Tech & power wax.



So now the next test will be: How will they last?! I`ve heard so much about the Collinite 845 and how long it last but now only time will tell and I`ll keep you updated on that one.

MrCLRider
04-03-2010, 06:51 AM
Thank you for the write up. I totally agree with the statement that the waxes don`t really offer any type of visual difference on the paint, imo protection is what matters!

VitoB
04-03-2010, 06:52 AM
Thanks for having taken the time to do the write-up on this, it is very much appreciated.



What I personally look for in a wax is the durability. The prep work is what will make the car look good, not the wax itself.

2005GTPinMD
04-03-2010, 07:19 AM
Great write-up. Thanks for conducting that research. It was interesting to see how all three of the products provide a similar shine.

Tony1
04-03-2010, 07:30 AM
You will find you get the same results with almost any wax. It`s all about prep. Your process and technique are whats important and the products are maybe 5% of it. After performing the test you just did hundreds of times over the years I can say this with absolute certainty.



The product collectors will try to tell you there is huge differences between the looks of the different products but that is total BS. There is slight appearance differences between sealants and waxes and some products look better on light colors and some on dark but these are not huge differences and probably not noticeable to you unless you really look and it will almost certainly be invisible to everybody else.



Do the test you just did and don`t tell anybody and than let them look at your paint and ask them what they see and they won`t be able to tell the difference. Of course if you tell them what you did they will convince them selves they see a difference because they think their supposed to.



I tried this with a Zaino zealot once. Told the guy I split the hood with Zaino on one side and Collinite on the other. He said he could tell the Zaino side a mile away and picks the driver side. The truth was neither side had Zaino or Collinite. Both sides had P21S. Not only did he fail to realize Zaino wasn`t used but he failed to see that the two sides had the same product applied. This clown still gladly worships at the alter of Sal. I could pull this kind of test off with any product though so it`s not a jab at Zaino but at product collectors.

irv
04-03-2010, 12:38 PM
Great write up and thanks as well for doing it!



In my guesstiment I think you will see the Colinite outlast the others?



I have 2 coats of Colinite 845 on my 09 Carbon Black metallic pick-up, one was applied when I purchased the truck back in May of 09 and the other was done in Nov 09.

I just did a major spring clean-up of the truck yesterday and today and I can truthfully say that the Colinite 845 is still beading after almost 6 months!! (just finished a less than harsh winter here as well, not much snow nor salt seen or used this winter)

It is a truly great wax and is probably the last wax I will ever use(I think the bottle will last for about 4-5 years with the little amount that is needed anyways!)

tssdetailing
04-03-2010, 06:14 PM
very rad, would like to do the same thing with a few more "known brands" such as pinnical, adams, etc...

termigator
04-03-2010, 07:31 PM
You will find you get the same results with almost any wax. It`s all about prep. Your process and technique are whats important and the products are maybe 5% of it. After performing the test you just did hundreds of times over the years I can say this with absolute certainty.



The product collectors will try to tell you there is huge differences between the looks of the different products but that is total BS. There is slight appearance differences between sealants and waxes and some products look better on light colors and some on dark but these are not huge differences and probably not noticeable to you unless you really look and it will almost certainly be invisible to everybody else.



Do the test you just did and don`t tell anybody and than let them look at your paint and ask them what they see and they won`t be able to tell the difference. Of course if you tell them what you did they will convince them selves they see a difference because they think their supposed to.



I tried this with a Zaino zealot once. Told the guy I split the hood with Zaino on one side and Collinite on the other. He said he could tell the Zaino side a mile away and picks the driver side. The truth was neither side had Zaino or Collinite. Both sides had P21S. Not only did he fail to realize Zaino wasn`t used but he failed to see that the two sides had the same product applied. This clown still gladly worships at the alter of Sal. I could pull this kind of test off with any product though so it`s not a jab at Zaino but at product collectors.





I`ve always admitted that I didn`t have an eye for the different LSP`s out there, but it`s fun collecting different waxes.:grinno:

lasthope05
04-03-2010, 07:52 PM
very rad, would like to do the same thing with a few more "known brands" such as pinnical, adams, etc...



I`ve done one before with a few sealants. None really show any significant differences between each other.(4* UPP, WG DGPS 3.0, UPGP, DG105, NXT 2.0)



I also have in my collection(sealant wise): PB EX-P, FK 1000p, FK 215, DG 501, and M20 that I excluded in my testing as I think they do better(slightly more noticeable) on lighter color cars.



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willtothewong
04-03-2010, 09:25 PM
oh very cool. Thanks for the write-up man

OllieJay
04-04-2010, 02:57 AM
Hey guys,



Its been raining non stop since I cleaned up the hood and threw the wax`s on (of course it rains right after I do it too! lol)



But I really have to say the Collinites 845 beads ALOT better and this I can say this is very noticeable and not BS. So I personally would have to say as stupid as it may seem but I would pick the collintes 845 just for how it beads and sheds the water off the paint. I believe collinites 845 will outlast the other two wax`s also - but only time will tell.



Cheers!

Bimmerdude
04-07-2010, 10:17 AM
I believe something that should be taken into account along with protection level is ease of use. Who wants to deal with a finiky wax/seal when there are ones out there that protect and shine just as well, yet are very easy to use?



This is my main beef with Zaino, never could get it to lay right for me. However, with BFWD, you just "set it and forget it", wipe it off 30 mins later and you`re good to go with no mixing, streaking, etc. Also not a knock on Zaino, but frankly the reason I don`t use it. I know that lots of people love it.



Nice comparison!

Alfisti
06-27-2010, 09:48 AM
Any updates? :D

imported_01GreyStangGT
06-28-2010, 02:46 AM
I also have used Collinite 845 with great results. Beads like crazy, lasts longer than most.