Black Audi >.<

[D.NGUYEN]

Well I`m beat.



I`m having a tough time dealing with my Phantom Black Audi A4. I can remove most swirls...etc but can`t deal with the hairline scratches.



I`m using a PC with orange/M105 and that can get it nice but with the light on it, I can see the hairline scratches. I stepped it up to the yellow pad and that doesn`t really do much either except cause a bit more hazing which 205 clears up.



So what now? Just leave it at that and forfeit and live with the scratches while sort of covering up with Zaino Z5?

[ADetailedFinish]

I had a problem with my black audi and the scratches... I didn`t try the m105, but I was using menzerna polishes and the PC with orange and yellow. Didn`t do much so I went and order a flex rotary and that took care of my problem. A lil bit more cutting power that way.

[motobuild]

Man oh man, welcome to Audi`s (nice on btw, you on the `Zine?).



What size orange pad are you using? On my Silver B7, I could get light swirls with a 5.5 orange and M105, but anything more than that, I had to go down to a 4" PFW.



My after winter detail is coming up here soon, and now we have a Flex and just got our order of Hydro-Tech pads in. So I will be trying those.



From MY experience (and anyone feel free to correct me) a PC just is not powerful enough to do high percentage correction on an Audi (at least on a B7).

[D.NGUYEN]

Man oh man, welcome to Audi`s (nice on btw, you on the `Zine?).



What size orange pad are you using? On my Silver B7, I could get light swirls with a 5.5 orange and M105, but anything more than that, I had to go down to a 4" PFW.



My after winter detail is coming up here soon, and now we have a Flex and just got our order of Hydro-Tech pads in. So I will be trying those.



From MY experience (and anyone feel free to correct me) a PC just is not powerful enough to do high percentage correction on an Audi (at least on a B7).



Haha, yea, i`m on the `Zine.



I`m using a 4" pad. The yellow pad seems to only cause hazing and doesn`t have any bite. So frustrating, then after I go over it and then use a microfibre, seems to cause scratches again haha.

[Accumulator]

I`ve removed pretty nasty scratches from behind Audi door handles...by hand. So yeah, it *can* be done, but that`s almost just theoretical when it comes down to what`s required. I mean..this is simply *abrasion*. People have been abrading stuff (like, uhm...stones and metals) to a perfect finish for centuries, and they did it without polishing machines.



Some sorta-random thoughts from a long-time Audi nut:



-Are they too deep for *safe* complete removal?

-Are you working the area enough? I don`t mean just six/eight times either.

-3.5"/4" PFW can do more than orange foam, and it`s safer.

-What about using a Flex 3401 or doing the initial, heavy correction via rotary?

-What about wetsanding with 3-4K?

-What about Surbuf pads with M105?

-What *caused* the marring in the first place? If a scratch is more than a couple inches long then something`s wrong with some process.

-Along the same lines, how often are you gonna do this (cc thickness issues)?

-(Warning, Autopian Heresy!) How much do you really care?

[D.NGUYEN]

I`ve removed pretty nasty scratches from behind Audi door handles...by hand. So yeah, it *can* be done, but that`s almost just theoretical when it comes down to what`s required. I mean..this is simply *abrasion*. People have been abrading stuff (like, uhm...stones and metals) to a perfect finish for centuries, and they did it without polishing machines.



Some sorta-random thoughts from a long-time Audi nut:



-Are they too deep for *safe* complete removal?

-Are you working the area enough? I don`t mean just six/eight times either.

-3.5"/4" PFW can do more than orange foam, and it`s safer.

-What about using a Flex 3401 or doing the initial, heavy correction via rotary?

-What about wetsanding with 3-4K?

-What about Surbuf pads with M105?

-What *caused* the marring in the first place? If a scratch is more than a couple inches long then something`s wrong with some process.

-Along the same lines, how often are you gonna do this (cc thickness issues)?

-(Warning, Autopian Heresy!) How much do you really care?



They are not even that deep, can barely feel it going over it with fingers, most of them is just very light.



I might not be working it long enough. Feels like I`m getting knowhere. I`ll try the yellow pad again.



I don`t have the more powerful equipment. It`s not really that bad, it`s actually pretty good in most people`s eyes, I just get so mad! hahaha.



Maybe most of it is just left over oil streaking that I think is a scratch? However, there are some light scratches.

[Accumulator]

They are not even that deep, can barely feel it going over it with fingers, most of them is just very light...



Well, if you *could* feel it, even a little, I`d think twice.




I might not be working it long enough. Feels like I`m getting knowhere. I`ll try the yellow pad again.



I`d ditch the yellow and use an orange. IMO the M105 doesn`t need worked *long*, about six times across the (small) section is plenty. It`s just that you have to do that over and over and over ...




Maybe most of it is just left over oil streaking that I think is a scratch? However, there are some light scratches.



I doubt it, more likely the oils are making things look better than they are (sorry :o ). Those light scratches oughta come out with M105/orange if you do it enough times. Heh heh, at least it`s easier/quicker than it was before M105 came out :D