show quality paint

[blucpe]

i`ll be getting my car back from my freinds autobody in a couple of days, it was repainted on all but three panels, he`s doing a show quality job on it, no orange peel, about 3-4 coats of clear after wet sanding. my question is, i know i can`t wax or seal for about 3-4 wks. to allow the paint to cure, what would you recommend that i do when the time comes to seal and wax? should i do a lite polish with let`s say menz sip and a finishing pad then a ipa wipedown then seal? anyway that`s the question, any help would be appreciated.

[imported_agentf1]

I would just use a finishing polish like Menzerna PO106FA or 085RD. I do not think you will need the Intense Polish.

[Accumulator]

I`d just wait and see and only do what`s necessary. If you don`t mar it up between now and then it might not need much polishing at all.

[Thomas Dekany]

I would just use a finishing polish like Menzerna PO106FA or 085RD. I do not think you will need the Intense Polish.



LOL - Remember most painters can`t polish too well. :D



Now he may not be "most" but.....



We may see some buffertrails.

[blucpe]

LOL - Remember most painters can`t polish too well. :D



Now he may not be "most" but.....



We may see some buffertrails.



i hear ya. but this guy has done work on my car before and he`s very good imho. he`s a perfectionist, especially when it comes to my car because it`s shown alot and the results send him alot of business, that being said, what would you recommend sealing it with the first time around. i`m into the glossiest i can get it. i have alot of products, they`re all good in their own way, just curious what everyone else would do.

[Rtom]

If the paint is still great when the time comes, throw whatever you have on top, then sit back and admire.



A sealant topped with a wax is always a sure bet ;)

[efnfast]

LOL - Remember most painters can`t polish too well. :D



Now he may not be "most" but.....



We may see some buffertrails.



Here`s my painter`s idea of a flawless SEMA quality paint job :spit:



http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/efnfast/ralph2.jpg



http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/efnfast/ralph1.jpg



50hrs later (for the entire car; some DEEP wool-induced RIDs) here`s my idea



http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/efnfast/alex1.jpg

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/efnfast/cbrajwl1.jpg

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/efnfast/cbrajwl2.jpg



He`s one of the best local painters around here. Detailing, well....:spit:

[Mike_Phillips]

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especially when it comes to my car because it`s shown alot and the results send him alot of business,







You`re question about what to do when you get the car back with the fresh paint...



Do you have to return the car to service? That is do you have to drive it everyday or is it going to sit in your garage?



If it`s going to be in your garage then don`t do anything for the next 30 days, just let it sit and let the paint fully harden and dry.



If you have to return the car back to service, that is drive it everyday, then to my knowledge there is not a single paint manufacture that recommends sealing their paint systems before at least 30 days air cure, some recommend longer.



On this forum and other forums, there are members that will recommend you to go ahead and seal the paint and don`t worry about it for a host of different reasons. You kind of have to decide who you want to list to, your forum friends or the paint manufacture of your painter. Sometimes a painter will tell you to not wax or seal the paint for 30 days and some painters will tell you it`s okay.





I`ve only ever heard of one product that is stated by the company to be a fresh paint safe wax, here`s the link to a page with information on the product.





ValuGard Product Data Sheets (http://www.valugard.net/cms/ProductDataSheets/tabid/70/Default.aspx)





Scroll down till you see a category of products called "Body Shop Products", to me this means products safe to us "in" a body shop but it`s possible the person that created their website doesn`t know the issues that surround body shop safe products or has been given confusing information about the product.



Anyway in this category is a product called "Finishing Wax" and it states,








Protection of FRESH paints after final polishing.









Doesn`t say anything about waiting 30 days? I e-mailed the company a very nice letter and asked for clarification but have not heard back from them.





Here`s a screenshot from the description page,



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/ValuGardFinishigWax.jpg







If it were my car and I didn`t have to put the car back into service then I would just wait for 30 days or whatever the painter recommends or states you must wait for any warranty to be in affect.



:)

[Mike_Phillips]

Nice save on your Cobra`s swirled-out paint... :xyxthumbs








He`s one of the best local painters around here. Detailing, well....:spit:











Most painter`s I`ve known really love to paint.... sanding and buffing? That`s hard work.





"It`s they guy that does the sanding and buffing that will make or break a custom paint job"





:)

[Flashtime]

Actually, it`s the guy that does the body work that will make or break the custom job. :)

[efnfast]

Nice save on your Cobra`s swirled-out paint... :xyxthumbs











Thanks - from looking at it you wouldn`t think the damage was that bad, but I had to attack some areas with 5-6passes of a PFW pad and SIP to remove the RIDs (And I don`t mean chasing down every RID, jjust removing the majority of them)










Actually, it`s the guy that does the body work that will make or break the custom job. :)





Agreed; however if the pre-paint prep sucks, well, then, there goes all your hard bodywork

[Accumulator]

A while back I read somewhere (sheesh, like *that`s* likely to sound credible :o ) that OCW has been officially approved by Ford for use on fresh, post-production paintwork. Anybody who really cares oughta be able to track that down.



Along perhaps similarly unreliable lines...




I`ve only ever heard of one product that is stated by the company to be a fresh paint safe wax, here`s the link to..[AutoInt/ValuGard]...information..





I gotta say that Ron Ketchum of AutoInt has 100% credibility in my book; he`s up there on my short-list with guys like you. If Ron OKs something (and that`s implicit in any ValuGard product unless he`s retired, which I haven`t heard of), I`d trust it. But hey, I`m just some semi-anonymous poster on the internet and I don`t want to encourage people to be cyber-chumps.



All that having been said, if the vehicle has to be used, it`s Meguiar`s #5 for me, for at least the first 90 days. Period.

[Barry Theal]

Nice save on your Cobra`s swirled-out paint... :xyxthumbs









Most painter`s I`ve known really love to paint.... sanding and buffing? That`s hard work.





"It`s they guy that does the sanding and buffing that will make or break a custom paint job"





:)



I know a very talented painter and I ask him once, " Your work looks very flawless I never seen a painter finish his work out this nice. I asked about his sanding and polishing process. His exact words.. I know how to shoot paint and its a good thing. If I had to sand and buff my work I wouldn`t make any money." Point taken here. Hey pretty much said I so good I don`t need sand. LOL he is a humble man. :LOLOL Very talented painter.

[mmm...waxporn]

Dang Barry, what`s that guy`s name?! That`s the guy I`m looking for!

[Barry Theal]

lol his name is Mike He is up here in pa. I can get you his number if your serious. pm me